Is Microsoft punch drunk by now?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by smoledman, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    The Windows 8 tablet is showing a lot of promise. They just need to hurry the hell up with bringing them out.
     
  2. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Nope.

    12% is still much smaller than the windows share. When you consider now that Apple is the in product, 12% against is still a strong showing for the Windows status quo.

    Microsoft Office is far and away the top Professional Suite. Bar-none.

    Windows 7 has been adopted heavily in the enterprise segment.

    Microsoft is doing some fantastic things with the X-Box. Seriously, it's crazy.

    And the surface hasn't even been released yet.

    Now I'm no Microsoft enthusiast, Ballmer is a quack, and I personally only own office for mac, but I also don't fool myself into thinking that Microsoft is in any real danger.
     
  3. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    Yes, I'm sure their only real OS competitor gaining a little ground after a big product launch is making them freak.

    Or they might be swimming in pools full of money, seeing as microsoft is still a very profitable company that's worth about 250 billion + cash reserves ( 65 billion last time I looked )

    A lil smaller than apple. But still doing just fine ;)
     
  4. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    I read somewhere recently that Windows will likely be the third most popular OS in the world by the end of 2012 by new activations (behind Android and iOS). That's shocking. Something that was almost inconceivable 5 years ago.
     
  5. smoledman thread starter macrumors 68000

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    That's if you lump ARM-based OSse in with x86 OSes.
     
  6. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    Not surprising at all
     
  7. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    MSFT will have to do a lot wrong before they have to worry about Apple cutting away their market share. They're under no threat currently.
     
  8. mischief macrumors 68030

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    No sweat from the giant.

    The retina MBP is a disaster inside from a hardware-repair/upgrade perspective and Mac OS Mountainlion is yet another step towards Mac OS simply being "iOS Pro". Meanwhile Apple's employee turnover is helping every competitor they have including M$.... which is why Windows is getting less lame by the day and Droid OS devices are getting more durable by the day.
     
  9. smoledman thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Cites?
     
  10. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Apple has been cutting away their market share every quarter for 6 straight years. At what point do they worry about it?
     
  11. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Umm nothing on it is user replaceable or repairable. Any hardware failure requires a completely new mobo.
     
  12. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    When Apple gains a decent percentage of that marketshare. MSFT is still the biggest player by miles.
     
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  14. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    What about when they gain a decent percentage of the profits?

    Depends on what game you are talking about.
     
  15. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    They already have, but it's not like MSFT is broke.

    The market share game, I thought that was fairly obvious since it's the only thing I was talking about.
     
  16. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Okay. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft is worried about OS X and iOS based on market share. Slashing prices of your signature product by 60% for the most (first?) significant price cut in two decades in reaction to your competitors is a sign of worry.
     
  17. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    Its not a sign of worry. Its a sign of " holy **** we still have more xp users than 7 users ".

    Its more microsoft attempting to move people people off xp than anything.

    Btw that's 40 dollars for an upgrade. A standalone copy will probably still run 100-200.

    Because they are making the windows 8 phone, and surface tablet, as wellas oems.

    Methinks they are trying to get as many people on 8 as possible so they can get that " ecosystem " thing going.

    They still are the kingpin of the consumer desktop/ laptop market. And expect for some nix niche stuff, they hold a monoply in the enterprise market. Microsoft supports the enterprise market, because again, expect for some niche nix stuff, no one else wants to.

    Its not worry, its planning for the future.
     
  18. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Windows 7 passed Windows XP recently. If your theory were correct, wouldn't it make sense to have discounted Windows 7?

    I doubt that consumer upgrades are a huge percentage of Microsoft's Windows sales. I think this is a clear reaction to Apple's growing dominance of the consumer space.
     
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    I don't thing MS is worried at all about numbers of Macs sold. In fact, it might even be good for MS. A very large number of those Macs are going to buy a Windows. The difference is that they are going to buy that license directly from MS as a download or from a retailer at full retail price. MS either gets the entire markup, or shares the full markup with the retailer. My understanding is that an OEM's Windows license, that come with PC hardware, has been bought by the OEM at a huge discount. MS doesn't get much more than a few dollars licence, and counts on the huge volumes to make their money. I'm guessing that the Windows licenses MS sells to that 12% marketshare of Macs more than makes up for the licenses they would have sold to the OEMs otherwise.

    Same thing for Office. A hefty portion of those Macs are buying Office licenses at full retail price. In this case they are also buying discounted licenses through school and work, but they would have access to that pricing regardless of the platform. What the Mac owners are not getting are the heavily discounted OEM Office pricing deals. So again, I would argue, MS is probably making more money off the Office sales to those Macs than they would have otherwise.


    Where MS needs to be worried is in the tablet market. At the moment they don't have much of anything (if anything at all, yet) to sell that runs on iOS. Every tablet Apple sells is, in this case, a totally lost sale for MS. I think we will see a huge push for the Surface in the next while. MS has to reclaim some of its total marketshare that it is losing to the tablets. At the moment, my feeling is that MS is totally irrelevant in the tablet market - and it has to become a player, or else it will suffer hugely.
     
  20. smoledman thread starter macrumors 68000

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    It will be another Holy S*it moment on July 24th when Apple announces a $17 billion EBITA with 20 million iPads sold.
     

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