Is my replacement iPhone Unlocked?

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  1. sbddude macrumors 6502a

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    I got a replacement iphone from the Apple store on monday (MC319LL). I tried a non-AT&T sim that I use at work for testing and it did not say "invalid SIM".

    When I put the same test SIM in a AT&T Q9h, I get a screen that says "unlock code required". Therefore I am fairly confidant that the test SIM is non-AT&T.

    From this, can I deduce that my replacement iPhone is unlocked? Is there any other way to tell?
     
  2. localboy28 macrumors 6502a

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    Iphone replacements are like for like
    If it was locked before it will be locked on the new iPhone.
     
  3. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    It probably locked to the sim you tried first but not sure.
    If it's a US iPhone it's locked.
    Try a restore and see what sim it accepts.
     
  4. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Not to be rude, but Apple is now selling unlocked iPhones for a premium.
     
  5. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    I know, but that doesn't mean they will take a locked iPhone and replace it with an unlocked one.
    Just saying.
     
  6. Kyotoma macrumors 68000

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    Replacements from Apple tend to be refurbished models of the same variety in which you bought in the first place. In extremely rare instances, they will replace you current one with higher memory(say they are regionally out of stock of your particular iPhone), but otherwise exactly the same one(Color, generation, and up-to-date iOS).
     
  7. pyro008 macrumors 6502

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    But they are available here, so its possible whether via mistake, shortage of locked variety, dumb employee, etc.
     
  8. sbddude thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Ok, I don't care how it happened. I am trying to figure out if it happened.

    What normally happens when a non-AT&T sim is inserted in a locked iPhone?
     
  9. eastercat macrumors 68040

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    It'll read something like no carrier or no signal where the antenna should be.
    If you really want to test, borrow a friend's t-mobile sim. If it's unlocked, you'll see signal bars.
    There's no way apple could've accidentally given you an unlocked phone. They copy the carrier lock of your old phone and transfer it to the new one. Unless someone screwed up big time, don't get your hopes up.
     
  10. acfusion29 macrumors 68040

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    in Canada.. Apple sells the iPhone on 5 different carriers. they sell ONE TYPE of phone and then lock the phone to whatever carrier you buy your phone with (if subsidized). if not subsidized, then the phone will remain unlocked.

    i'm sure it's the same case in the U.S. they don't have "locked" and "unlocked" stock. it's just iPhone stock that is either locked or unlocked during the replacement.
     
  11. CyBeRino macrumors 6502a

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    Actually it sells them at retail price. Carriers offer phones at a discount with a costly plan.
     
  12. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    This is correct.

    An iPhone is only locked when it is activated in iTunes. The network that the lock is applied to (e.g. AT&T) is determined using a database maintained by Apple.

    When you take in an iPhone, Apple will know which network your device is locked to and they will be able to put the replacement in the database with the same network.
     
  13. Carlanga macrumors 604

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    put the SIM from the other carrier and make a call; if it goes through w/ both the other carrier sim and yours and you can talk then is unlocked... :eek: :cool:
     
  14. Polymira macrumors regular

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    My brother got an AppleCare replacement on his iPhone 3G a year and a 1/2 or so ago. The replacement was unlocked (iTunes would tell you it was unlocking the phone at the end of a restore)
     
  15. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Your brother got really lucky then if he handed in a carrier locked iphone and got an unlocked unit in return.
    That's the exception and not the rule.
     
  16. acfusion29 macrumors 68040

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    i think at first the genius' were typing in the information by themselves.

    now i believe all they do is put your serial # in, and the rest is done by the system. once the genius scans your replacement, the computer knows how much warranty it should have, whether it's unlocked.. and all that stuff.
     

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