Is MyWi illegal?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by WillRuth, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. WillRuth macrumors newbie

    Aug 10, 2010
    Im just curious if it is legal and what could AT&T do to stop it. I use it a lot and have an outrageous amount of data used (thank god for unlimited). Im just wondering because recently nothing of mine has been able to connect to the internet whenever I try to use it. Maybe im just doing something wrong to where it is not working.
  2. lucifiel macrumors 6502a


    Nov 7, 2009
    In your basement
    It's illegal in the sense that it's a breach of contract.

    Which implies that AT&T could sue you for damages and/or terminate the contract.

    However, from a practical standpoint, neither of those things will happen, unless of course you are doing something criminally punishable with mywi, for example downloading Child Porn, but I digress.
  3. WillRuth thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 10, 2010
    AT&T screwed themselves when they offered unlimited data, and go ahead terminate my contract I will just go to verizon.

    And how did u know about the porn? :D
  4. Cortezbanks macrumors 6502

    Sep 5, 2008
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

    It's my data (unlimited), I'm going to do with it what I want
  5. Zorn macrumors 6502a


    Feb 14, 2006
    Basically what others have said is correct. It's not illegal per se, it's just a violation of your private contract with AT&T. If you go using an obscene amount of data, you will get a warning letter from them, and if you continue they will just cancel your contract, at no penalty to you.
  6. The General macrumors 601

    Jul 7, 2006
  7. WillRuth thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 10, 2010
    ok thanks for clearing up any doubts I had. Now im just wondering why it doesn't work. It starts up and my iMac is able to connect to the signal, just that it can't connect to the internet. Does that make sense. Any suggestions?
  8. MikePA macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2008
    How is your iMac connecting, WiFi, BT or USB? Does it fail on all three?
  9. Rooskibar03 macrumors 65816


    Feb 5, 2007
    State of Denial
    It's your data to use on that device, not tethered to another one.

    Its called Terms of service. You signed it when you started your contract.
  10. hackthatphone macrumors 68000


    Jul 28, 2010
    This question is best answered by a lawyer, not anyone else in this thread.
  11. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
  12. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    That logic is like going to an all you can eat buffet and insisting you can take food home with you or insist that the admission should include your friend's meal..

    In other words, it is unlimited on that device, not via a laptop
  13. gco212 macrumors 6502

    Jul 21, 2004
    Not the best analogy. All the data is ultimately flowing through the iPhone, and all the network traffic is coming from and going to the iPhone, then being transferred to a computer. The buffet analogy only works if you take the food, put it in your mouth, then put it directly into your friend's mouth. I'm not judging or anything, but that's not my thing. :p
  14. neko girl macrumors 6502a

    neko girl

    Jan 20, 2011
    It is illegal, but maybe not immoral. First is just a fact. Second is up to opinion. Don't confuse the two :)
  15. Rajani Isa macrumors 65816

    Rajani Isa

    Jun 8, 2010
    Rogue Valley, Oregon
    No, it's a very good analogy. You are taking your food and putting it on another plate. It might touch your plate (the iPhone) but it's not meant to go to other plates after that (other devices). The use of programs like this to get tethering on the iPhone is getting that all you can eat salad at the restaurant, and sharing with all your fellow diners. That's not how it's meant to work.

    Note, for those with limited data, it totally suck that AT&T is trying to rip a new one for tethering (and without giving you extra data!) but the unlimited data was just for the iPhone's own use, not other devices.
  16. bella92108, Jan 29, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 30, 2011

    bella92108 macrumors 68000

    Mar 1, 2006
    LOL, this caused me to chuckle.

    Contrary to the naysayers, your analogy was actually really good :)
  17. IMADV8 macrumors member

    Aug 16, 2010
    The United States has no law against tethering without a tethering plan. It's breach of contract, nothing more.
  18. err404, Jan 30, 2011
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2011

    err404 macrumors 68020

    Mar 4, 2007
    Actually your ToS explicitly forbids unauthorized tethering. Thanks to laws passed to prevent cable service theft, it's arguably theft of service (a potential federal offense). Analogous to the old days of paying for basic cable, and using your access to obtain premium channels.
    However AFAIK it has never been tested, and probably never will since it's not a widespread issue for cell providers.

    For the record, I'm not claiming that it's illegal, rather that there is uncertainty.
  19. gngan macrumors 68000


    Jan 1, 2009
    I bet he does take food home when he goes to a buffet. That is why he thinks that way.
  20. HeyItsRaymond macrumors member


    Feb 15, 2011
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    If I use MyWi and I have an un limited plan from Verizon does that mean there is no "2GB" limitation?
  21. Crackbone macrumors regular

    Mar 22, 2010
    That's correct.

    As far as Verizon is concerned, the data you are using is directly from the handset.
  22. MacPC macrumors regular

    Sep 25, 2006
    I am starting to wondering about that myself, the other day I downloaded PDANet from Cydia because over the weekend my Comcast connection was down, I used it to surf the net for a day, I am on the AT&T unlimited plan as well. I am wondering if AT&T can somehow detected that I was using my Macbook on the 3G instead of the iPhone.
  23. MikePA macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2008
    Yes they can and the next time you do it they will send 220 volts down your cellular connection and fry your iPhone and Macbook so don't have your iPhone in a front pocket or it will also fry your cajones.

    This topic is number 3 behind (1) When will the next JB come out and (2) When will the next unlock come out as the most asked question. The answer is if they can, they are not doing anything about it.
  24. bossxii, Feb 15, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2011

    bossxii macrumors 68000

    Nov 9, 2008
    Kansas City
    Legal questions aside.. I'm not a lawyer so won't pretend to know the answer that most do.

    I've used MyWi tethered to various laptops/iPad's for a few years now, or at least 18 months give or take. Normally I don't use but 4 or 5 gigs a month, but have gone well over 15gigs with Slingplayer app on my iPad tethered. Usually during the NCAA tourney I go way over but have yet to hear anything from AT&T.

    If they wanted to stop it, they would have by now, but then again they approved the Slingplayer app for the iPhone and it's sucking down the 250-300mb's an hour so the fact I pick up that signal on another device or not seems rather pointless for them to pursue when the end result is me switching carriers. (not always a bad thing for the customer).
  25. gco212 macrumors 6502

    Jul 21, 2004
    So you can't download an App and sync it to your computer? You can only use certain data, which is not explained in the TOS, with conjunction with your computer. It's not a good analogy.

    Further, to those saying it's only a breach of contract and not illegal, a contract is private law and breaches are thus anything that is a breach of contract is illegal. It's just a question of whether courts will enforce the contract.

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