Is October 27th the day of the new iMac?

Macmamamac

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Rumors are beginning to circulate online that 27th will be the day. In August Bloomberg predicted a new Macbook pro design, and it looks like the event will be happening one day after Microsofts all-in-one desktop announcement.

This makes a lot of logical strategic sense, to have it one day after Microsofts big announcement, so it suggests the rumours have something of substance.

A growing number of sites are beginning to rumour monger on the specifics.

http://etfdailynews.com/2016/10/17/apple-set-to-unveil-new-macbooks-imacs-at-october-event/

http://mstarsnews.musictimes.com/articles/115062/20161016/hp-envy-aio-imac-apple-os-x10-12-amd-imac-2016-imac-pro.htm

http://www.inquisitr.com/3575549/new-imac-2016-update-rumors-release-date-specs-apple-all-in-one/
 
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Maxx Power

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Well, if there is going to be anything new hardware-wise, it better come before the big holiday shopping season or don't bother at all this year. The end of October is a logical time for sure, but who knows for sure?
 
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theatremusician

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I think, at this point, it's becoming painfully apparent that Apple is phasing themselves out of the traditional computer market. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm unfortunately probably not wrong.
 

theatremusician

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That makes no sense, given the billions of dollars they make on Macs. People have been saying that for years but up until a couple of quarters ago, Macs were increasing in sales.
If you notice, I said PHASING out the traditional computer lines. They are heavily marketing the iPad Pro as a desktop replacement already. It's only a matter of time when all app development will be done directly on the iPad. So yes, it makes a lot of sense at least long term to consolidate all Apple computing to a single OS and manufacturing architecture.
 
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If you notice, I said PHASING out the traditional computer lines.
A lot of us don't agree with you. People confuse the value and function of tablets with real computers. Millions of people use computers for more than just YouTube and Facebook. But if that's all someone does, then yes an iPad will replace their computer. And good for them, the iPad is good at what it does.

They are heavily marketing the iPad Pro as a desktop replacement already. It's only a matter of time when all app development will be done directly on the iPad. So yes, it makes a lot of sense at least long term to consolidate all Apple computing to a single OS and manufacturing architecture.
Yes, they are marketing the iPad Pro as a desktop replacement because that's the way they want to emphasise the value of the product to the target consumer. It doesn't make it true for everyone. To me, the iPad Pro is a larger sized iPad with a built-in digitiser, faster processor and more screen space to display two apps side-by-side. It's still iOS. It still has the same limitations as any other iPad. It's not a desktop replacement to me - it's a mobile device. Apple calls it a desktop replacement, but to me that's more of an exaggerated statement towards it's performance and size rather than a statement of fact.

I am still optimistic about the Mac. With billions of dollars in revenue each quarter from the sale of Macs, Apple shareholders will not kindly accept "we're in a post-PC era" as a reason to start phasing out Macs. To any sensible person who invests in Apple stock, it sounds ridiculous. Computers are as valuable today as they were 20 years ago, if not more. Tablet computers have their place, and computers do too. I honestly do not believe either is replacing the other.
 
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....It's only a matter of time when all app development will be done directly on the iPad....
There are people who believe this, but they are unable to specify how this could happen from a UI standpoint. It is unclear how a high-end full-featured desktop app like Photoshop, Premiere Pro or Excel -- which have hundreds of dense menus, interface dialogs and desktop-specific UI constructs -- could be rewritten to run on a tablet, as least as they currently exist. No software developer -- not Microsoft, not Adobe, not Apple -- has outlined a plan or timeframe to achieve this.

Until a tablet can run these apps with the equivalent feature set and capability, development of desktop apps and the underlying OS will continue.

It is conceivable that some future tablet-like device with a far more advanced OS and much richer UI constructs -- possibly including high-resolution 3D gesture recognition and advanced voice recognition -- could (at long last) fully replace current professional desktop apps. However that would be far removed from familiar tablets of today.

It is "a matter of time" in that given enough time almost anything could happen. However it won't happen in the near future.
 

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I really hope they don't phase out the Mac. I can't see myself doing everything on an iPad. Somethings yes but not everything. To me the iPad or iPhone is just an extension of the Mac which is still the main hub. I personally don't use cloud based services so all my stuff is on my Mac hard drive. I still like the Mac OS UI far better than the iOS UI. I do like the iPad but I'm still not sure I can justify the price to buy one.
 
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bbnck wrote:
"I am still optimistic about the Mac. With billions of dollars in revenue each quarter from the sale of Macs, Apple shareholders will not kindly accept "we're in a post-PC era" as a reason to start phasing out Macs."

I don't believe that Apple puts much weight into what its shareholders think.

Certainly little more weight than they put into what most -end users- think.

I sense the Apple management attitude is, "we'll go where we want, and you're along for the ride -- sit back and enjoy the profits we earn for you."
 
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bbnck wrote:
"I am still optimistic about the Mac. With billions of dollars in revenue each quarter from the sale of Macs, Apple shareholders will not kindly accept "we're in a post-PC era" as a reason to start phasing out Macs."

I don't believe that Apple puts much weight into what its shareholders think.

Certainly little more weight than they put into what most -end users- think.

I sense the Apple management attitude is, "we'll go where we want, and you're along for the ride -- sit back and enjoy the profits we earn for you."

And when they have a product making them billions they will Keep making it. They can always use the money. Mac pcs are not even at the stage of iPods, much less the iPod classic.
 

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Until a tablet can run these apps with the equivalent feature set and capability, development of desktop apps and the underlying OS will continue.
You're correct about this, but, since Apple has been at a glacial pace in releasing pro level computers, the "underlying OS" will likely be Windows. Many pros are already migrating to Windows since they can't count on Apple supporting the pro lines anymore. It's sad, but true.
 
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But the article also doesn't mention the iMac for sure. It refers only to MB.
Good point. But certainly according to the track record it would make sense, timeline wise, to upgrade the iMac at this point. Also if you are doing an event, I doubt there is quite enough new to talk about in terms of just MacBooks.
 

bbnck

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bbnck wrote:
"I am still optimistic about the Mac. With billions of dollars in revenue each quarter from the sale of Macs, Apple shareholders will not kindly accept "we're in a post-PC era" as a reason to start phasing out Macs."

I don't believe that Apple puts much weight into what its shareholders think.

Certainly little more weight than they put into what most -end users- think.

I sense the Apple management attitude is, "we'll go where we want, and you're along for the ride -- sit back and enjoy the profits we earn for you."
They put more consideration into what their shareholders think than they make most people believe. Apple is a profit-generating business like any other company. They are expected to serve to the interest of the majority of shareholders, and Macs make billions of dollars. Like any other public company, Apple executives are routinely monitored on their performance and if they start experiencing falling revenue due to a stagnated Mac line, they will have unhappy shareholders to answer. Why would they want to phase out the Mac line when there is so much more they can do, and in shareholders minds, more money to make? The executive team might well operate in an ethical manner (they strongly opposed a proposal by one of Apple's shareholders to only include accessibility features that are directly linked to revenue), but they have the same business mindset as any other company. There is nothing special about Apple in that regard.
 

Dave245

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I can't see the iMac getting anything substantial of an upgrade, maybe some spec updates but nothing more, 5K was added not long ago. I think this Mac event is going to focus on the updated and redesigned MacBook Pro.
 

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I can't see the iMac getting anything substantial of an upgrade, maybe some spec updates but nothing more, 5K was added not long ago. I think this Mac event is going to focus on the updated and redesigned MacBook Pro.
I think the 21" iMac has the most opportunity to be improved, the 27" can see a better dGPU, and USB-C/TB3, but that's about it.

I think it may be nice to see Apple finally drop 5400 rpm drives from the component list as well, this is afterall 2016 and not 1999 :eek:
 

Dave245

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I think the 21" iMac has the most opportunity to be improved, the 27" can see a better dGPU, and USB-C/TB3, but that's about it.

I think it may be nice to see Apple finally drop 5400 rpm drives from the component list as well, this is afterall 2016 and not 1999 :eek:
This is true, i don't think it will see a big change. Apple could remove the 5400 rpm drives and add more flash storage. The biggest changes will probably be seen on the MacBook Pro's, i keep reading the rumours about an OLDED strip, Touch ID and a thinner redesign. I'm not so sure about the colours tho, i have read that Apple will add, silver, black and gold much like the 12" MacBook.
 

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I think the biggest problem with the recent lack of more timely updates is Intel. They sure have slowed the pace of advancements in chips suitable for the imac and mac pro over the last few years since the overall market for desktops is not what it used to be, and Apple probably doesn't see the market value in trying to develop their own desktop chips. So basically when intel decides to move some chips Apple can then decide what to put out. So it is not happening very often. And also there just aren't as many annual up-graders in the desktop side of things to move things along any faster.
 
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