I'm guessing the reason that apple broke the summer iphone release schedule and pushed it back to october was to not piss off the newer Verizon customers who bought a new phone and had a newer, better one come out just a few months later. I'm wondering if from now on we'll be seeing all iphone announcements in october. Does anyone think they'll ever go back to june/july?? That has a lot to do with whether I upgrade or not. I'm happy with my iphone 4, but I would probably get the 4S if it's going to be another full year until we'll see the 5.