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glendroid

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I have beta 1 on my iPhone 6 currently and can't get raise to wake to work. Combed through the settings and found nothing..

Could this feature be iPhone 6s only?
 

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It's been Apple's tactic to make a handful of features exclusive to the latest version of their devices to entice users to upgrade. Most of the time, the reasons are more marketing related than hardware limitations of the older devices..

So, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this feature is limited to the 6S and onward..
 
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I think it could have easily been implemented on the 6, but since only 6s users had the Touch ID being too fast problem, they made it only for the 6s to entice people to upgrade.
 
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glendroid

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Anyone with feedback with an iPhone 6?
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Not sure why that feature is even a big deal. If TouchID is truly an issue, just hit the power button to wake the screen.

The option of just lifting my phone to view the screen is very attractive to me. I loved it on the Nexus 6p when I tried it out.
 
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It's been Apple's tactic to make a handful of features exclusive to the latest version of their devices to entice users to upgrade. Most of the time, the reasons are more marketing related than hardware limitations of the older devices..

So, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this feature is limited to the 6S and onward..
Oh, really? When has Apple done this, aside from technical limitations?
 
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This feature should must be use Gyro, Accelerometer and Barometer.

And here is the compatible list.
iPhone 6S - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6S Plus - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6 - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6 Plus - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone SE - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED
iPhone 5S - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED
iPhone 5 - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED

Apple should must be add this iPhone 6 or later. There is a hardware inside for it. And it helps to Apple reduce Sleep/Wake button and Home button/Touch-id service costs.

Edit:
I watched this video.

0:47 - 0:52

Looks like there is no need barometer for it. And all m7 and m8 models can handle this feature. So its a developer beta1. Must be added in later beta's. I think Apple working on it background for getting all models. Maybe Apple added this feature 6S only for demo. Its a simple and great software innovation. And ofcourse its a Win-Win. Apple wins: Reduce button service costs. Users wins: Easier life. Better than double touch home button to wake. :)
 
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Paddle1

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This feature should must be use Gyro, Accelerometer and Barometer.

And here is the compatible list.
iPhone 6S - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6S Plus - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6 - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6 Plus - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone SE - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED
iPhone 5S - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED
iPhone 5 - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED

Apple should must be add this iPhone 6 or later. There is a hardware inside for it. And it helps to Apple reduce Sleep/Wake button and Home button/Touch-id service costs.
Well on stage they stated the feature was added to help stop unintended fast Touch ID 2.0 unlocks, only the 6s and 6s Plus would fit that criteria.
 
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C DM

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Siri, for one. I can't use it on my iPad 2, yet iPad mini (first generation) owners can use Siri. My iPad has the same SoC as the first generation iPad mini.
Is everything else related the same as well? Like microphones, noise cancellation abilities, etc.?
 
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Well on stage they stated the feature was added to help stop unintended fast Touch ID 2.0 unlocks, only the 6s and 6s Plus would fit that criteria.

From Apple
In iOS 10, accessing the information you need is easier and quicker than ever. Raise to Wake automatically wakes the screen as you raise your iPhone, making it easier to view all your notifications at a glance, right from the Lock screen.

http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/06/apple-previews-ios-10-biggest-ios-release-ever.html
 
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v0lume4

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But does your iPad 2 have the same DSP capabilities as the iPad mini?
I honestly don't know. However, I don't doubt that Apple locks out certain software features that could be on older devices. I don't fault them for it.
 
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EldonChew

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It needs the gyroscope/accelerometer to be always on(when the phone is on sleep) and only the 6s/SE has the M9 embedded...
 
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perfect_

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It needs the gyroscope/accelerometer to be always on(when the phone is on sleep) and only the 6s/SE has the M9 embedded...

Did you know? iPhone 5S/6/6Plus has a always on(when the phone is on sleep) embedded motion processor (m7 and m8) ? It can track ur steps, distance and floors(m8) even when the phone is on sleep.

M9 chip has a only difference and its always on microphone. In this feature we dont need microphone.
 
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Paddle1

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From Apple
In iOS 10, accessing the information you need is easier and quicker than ever. Raise to Wake automatically wakes the screen as you raise your iPhone, making it easier to view all your notifications at a glance, right from the Lock screen.

http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/06/apple-previews-ios-10-biggest-ios-release-ever.html
Yep, like said on stage, part of the reason that it's "easier to view your notifications" on the lock screen with Raise to Wake is because it's harder to accidentally unlock. They're not going to put that on the website.

If it requires the M9 always-on processor, does the SE have this feature?
 
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Crystal Shadow

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The feature is mostly relevant to the 6s because TouchID 2 is so fast. I couldnt look at the lock screen unless I intentionally press home with the wrong finger, or hit the side button (Which is inconvenient). That said, it would make sense to make it an option for the 6
 
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The feature is mostly relevant to the 6s because TouchID 2 is so fast. I couldnt look at the lock screen unless I intentionally press home with the wrong finger, or hit the side button (Which is inconvenient). That said, it would make sense to make it an option for the 6
Apparently it's there for SE as well though.
 
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Yep, like said on stage, part of the reason that it's "easier to view your notifications" on the lock screen with Raise to Wake is because it's harder to accidentally unlock. They're not going to put that on the website.

If it requires the M9 always-on processor, does the SE have this feature?

The feature is mostly relevant to the 6s because TouchID 2 is so fast. I couldnt look at the lock screen unless I intentionally press home with the wrong finger, or hit the side button (Which is inconvenient). That said, it would make sense to make it an option for the 6

It works on iPhone SE aswell.

iPhone SE TouchID is the same as in 5s, slower than iPhone 6s fingerprint sensor.

If people doing accidentally unlock 6S. So what is that. Iphone SE has a slow fingerprint sensor. Your argument is dead.

If it needs hardware; 5S/6/6Plus has.
If it wants always on motion chip; 5S/6/6Plus has.

What we dont have? Maybe just resistance.
 
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ashindnile

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Is everything else related the same as well? Like microphones, noise cancellation abilities, etc.?
The only differences between iPad 2 rev. 2 and iPad mini 1 (if I remember correctly) are LTE support, and a better front camera.
 
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It works on iPhone SE aswell.

iPhone SE TouchID is the same as in 5s, slower than iPhone 6s fingerprint sensor.

If people doing accidentally unlock 6S. So what is that. Iphone SE has a slow fingerprint sensor. Your argument is dead.

If it needs hardware; 5S/6/6Plus has.
If it wants always on motion chip; 5S/6/6Plus has.

What we dont have? Maybe just resistance.
I thought the iPhone SE had Touch ID 2?
 
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