Is RAM management getting worse in iOS 11

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  1. PeLaNo macrumors regular

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    In iOS 10 I used to open 5-6 apps in my iPhone SE and keep switching between these apps with no reload.
    But now on iOS 11 sometimes I just press home from app,open it again and it has to reload.
    Anyone has this kind of problem?
     
  2. ZEEN0j macrumors 65816

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    I've noticed this as well on my previous iPhone 7 plus and my current 8 plus.
     
  3. Radon87000, Oct 22, 2017
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    Yes its getting worse. Last year iPhone 7 was destroying the Pixel and Galaxy Note 7 in RAM Management. This year iPhone 8 is getting destoryed by Pixel 2 XL and Note 8.
     
  4. redfirebird08 macrumors 6502

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    Glad to hear it’s happening on the newer phones with at least double the RAM amount in my iPhone 6. Sounds like buying a new phone probably won’t fix the issue. Hopefully later versions of iOS 11 will help fix this problem for everyone.
     
  5. atlchamp macrumors 68000

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    My iPhone 7 on 10.3.3 is more fluid and faster than my iPhone 8 on iOS 11. iOS 11 is a freak show right now but apple is making improvements with every update. By 11.3 it should be a lot better
     
  6. PeLaNo thread starter macrumors regular

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    I think they nailed it with iOS 10.
    That version is very stable and RAM management is much better.
     
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  8. PeLaNo thread starter macrumors regular

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    Even 8 plus has this problem ?
     
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    Keeping my SE on 10.2.1 for good. I saw 10.3.3 update back then but usually prefer the update it came with. It's not only about smoothness and RAM but longest possible battery life.

    iOS10 seems equal to Android's KitKat from the Holo era or Marshmallow or Nougat 7.1 in the Material era. Oreo is still very nice too but seems to generate more heat and I don't really like the minor changes coming from 7.1.2 to 8.0.

    Android improves every year with the only one having RAM leaks being Lollipop for being the first to revamp to Material Design. It's like iOS7. Seems like Android 5.0 (not 5.1) RAM management is like iOS11.0.x. Not quite optimized.

    Apple should have spelled it iOSX last year as an OS X tribute.
     
  10. ZEEN0j macrumors 65816

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    8 plus as well yes. But less with apples app and more with third party apps. But that could be an issue with those apps. At least I hope so.
     
  11. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Wasn't like that for at least various people in the early days of iOS 10. Took some time, as it usually does with major updates.
     
  12. cynics macrumors G4

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    Personally I haven't noticed a difference between iOS 10 and 11. Although fter iOS 8 I've become very wary of my usage for apps that I dont want to refresh and I will switch back to them between switching to other apps in an attempt to "keep them fresh".

    OP: Witch app(s) in particular do that? If you noticed an app refreshing itself simply from switching to the home and back we can look to see which API's they are using for background activity. You can intentionally code an app to do that, so for example an social media app will refresh its content when opening from a suspended state even though the app is still in memory.

    I'm not saying that is the case, just something we can look into.
     
  13. PeLaNo thread starter macrumors regular

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    I saw this problem with Facebook discord and some other apps but it happen occasionally not in a predictable way. If they intend to do that it would reload every time right ?
     
  14. cynics macrumors G4

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    First I want to be clear I'm not making excuses for Apple or iOS apps. It could in fact be an out of memory (OOM) condition causing the app to refresh.

    But apps can appear to have unpredictable background activity based on the various background API's they utilize, VERY unpredictable if background app refresh is turned on.

    A push notification, wifi connection, battery level, phone charging, location change, etc are all things that can cause a background app to do "something".

    Combine the above with iOS using algorithms to adjust the frequency and duration of those background activities makes it even more unpredictable.

    However in the case of Facebook I would say its an OOM (they refer to a background OOM as a BOOM). Its a bloated app, it knows it, it doesn't care.
     
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    How do you know the apps have been optimized for iOS 11??

    People are quick to blame Apple for everything, while everyone else is treated like a saint.
     
  16. decafjava macrumors 68030

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    Completely the opposite for me and my 7 plus...
     
  17. atlchamp macrumors 68000

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    Set up as new
     
  18. decafjava macrumors 68030

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    You misunderstood my phone is far better on ios 11 than 10.33. Good advice though in general.
     
  19. atlchamp macrumors 68000

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    That's good
     
  20. longjack, Oct 30, 2017
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    Hi guys! i tought it would have been better to post here instead of open a new thread. I bought an iPhone 8 (256GB) last week and I experienced lags and battery drains, so I just want to share with you "how much" ram iOS 11.0.3 uses without any app open (sorry for my english, i'm italian). https://i.imgur.com/R31kMeM.jpg
    In my case, iOS 11.0.3 itself drains about 70% of ram. I think it's too much because on my old iPhone 5 (iOS 10.3.3) it uses only 50% of it.

    So my question goes to iPhone 8 Plus owners: how much ram does the plus version use? Because I'm thinking about switch to the plus version (I'm not interested in iPhone X). Is it worth it?
    Thank you all, have a nice day.

    update: iOS 11.1 drains 79-80% of ram without any open app (iphone 8 non-plus).
     
  21. Freakonomics101 macrumors 68000

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    I have to say the same about my 7+
     
  22. Dvda66au macrumors newbie

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    Hi all,

    With my iPhone 7 Plus since iOS 11 and maybe even a bit in my iPad Pro 9.7 , I can’t confirm for sure but it feels like apps are refreshing/reloading more often than before.

    Also there are a few speed test videos where they load up like 10 or so apps on iPhones with iOS 11 and the same/similar apps on another phone and iPhones/iOS used to dominate these speed tests in both laps, and keep all the apps open for the second lap of the test where they reopen all the apps to see if they stayed in memory and they did.

    Now... same tests, it’s the opposite. Most of the iOS apps are having to reload again from the beginning so ram management is definitely worse in iPhones.

    Now million dollar question is... is it iOS 11 that has made ram management worse on iPhones?

    Is it something in the os OR most apps not really being optimised for iOS 11 so it’s a 3rd party developer thing?

    OR is it now a hardware limitation that 3 gigs is no longer enough in 2017 iPhones and 2018 iPhones will really need an extra gig so iOS 11/12 can function a lot better and be happier?

    Thoughts?
     
  23. ronno macrumors regular

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    iOS 11 reloads a lot on the X as well.
    Reminds me of the olden days when phones had less than a gig of RAM.
    And by the way the betas have the same problem (running on 11.2.5 at the moment.)
    My 7+ with iOS 10 was superb in terms of men mgmt.
     
  24. Dvda66au macrumors newbie

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    It seems pretty much confirmed that 3 gig of ram isn’t really enough for iOS 11 to perform optimally like iOS 10 did with 3 gig ram.

    If this years iPhones don’t have a ram increase then I’m going to have to pass this year as well and stay on my 7 plus or try an android for the first time.
     
  25. aakshey macrumors 68000

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    Even my iPad Pro 10.5 reloads a lot. So it isn’t about not having enough RAM as much as poorly optimised software.
     

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