Is rMBP 15" that much problematic?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by cxt210, Feb 26, 2013.

  1. cxt210 macrumors newbie

    Feb 26, 2013
    Hi everybody!

    I'm currently using a Lenovo Y570 that has i7 2630QM, Nvidia GT555, 8GB RAM, and 750GB hdd (5400 rpm).

    I'm planning to buy a new rMBP 15" base model but I have some doubts and questions.

    Almost everyone complain about IR issue on LG screens. There are many complaints about laggy behavior in many cases such as typing and web browsing. This will be my first Mac and I don't wanna face problems with a laptop that I pay over 2000$.

    You can say "Don't buy it then" but I'm a recently graduated computer engineer and many of my friends say macs have many advantages over classic Windows machines. I want to experince the rMBP. I bought my current laptop 1.5 years ago and now I'm not sure whether I should buy a mac or not. Should I wait for the next release/upgrade or just buy it now? Btw this wait process is not for a newer chip (haswell) etc but for the current problems of this machine to be resolved.

    Thank you.
  2. Hungry&Foolish Suspended

    Mar 29, 2012
    Buy it,if you find it problematic, return within 14 days, No questions asked.
  3. justperry macrumors G3


    Aug 10, 2007
    In the core of a black hole.
    FYI, the rMBP has just been updated with faster processors, they might have resolved some issues since it's the second model.
    Haswell will be at least another 6 months, probably more, like October or so.

    The lag is mostly in Safari, but there is a fix for this, nightly built of WebKit.(AFAIK)
    The machine is good, except maybe the IR problems, but these seem to be much less than before, the problems with lag will most probably be solved in 10.8.3.
  4. zakee00 macrumors regular


    Jul 7, 2004
    Anchorage, Alaska
    Webkit is a perfect alternative to Safari until Apple releases an update to fix scrolling lag. Buy it, you will not be disappointed. It's an amazing machine.
  5. kx22 macrumors member

    Feb 4, 2011
    Same reason for me, but I will wait. Not because of haswell or any upgrade, just dont want to buy a machine this spectacular and finding screen issues. This machine is all about the screen....they had 1 job, and decided to keep the LG after the upgrade.
    Ill wait for the real refresh. Hopefully 1 with adjustable memory.
    Until then I keep using my Air 2010.
  6. cxt210 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 26, 2013
    Thank you for your help guys. I think I'll buy it :) The only big problem I may face screen issues I guess. I hope its screen won't be an LG.
  7. xShane macrumors 6502a


    Nov 2, 2012
    United States
    To be honest, your situation sounds like you don't need it now. I'd wait for the refresh if possible.
  8. JeffiJers macrumors 6502a

    Sep 12, 2012
    I would probably wait it out until more info is released about the screens etc.

    After 1 month, and 3 returns I have in my possession a sound 15R computer.

    2.3 machines
    1st- LG, computer got Scorching hot while plugged in on sleep. (power nap off)
    2nd- Samsung, Screen flicker/ horizontal lines

    2.4 machines
    3rd- LG, screen was noticeably dimmer then any compared mac
    4th- Samsung, no issues.

    Despite the issues i do truly love this computer but it was redicules that one had to go through that much time/driving & headache to get a sound computer.

    Seems like many LG pannel owners on here will say theirs is fine etc. That one like me is over reacting bla bla. Not the case at all, maybe once in my life I returned a products do to being faulty and the second worked (external HDD back years ago).

    Another thing to note, is the fans would randomly come on on all the units I had including the current. Doesn't directly effect me so I have ignored it.
  9. swerve147 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 12, 2013
    This is exactly the issue. No one is right or wrong. We all have different tolerances to this problem.

    Granted there are some really severe cases of ghosting out there, but at the same time I think there are also cases at the other extreme where people are complaining of 10 milliseconds of IR.

    The truth lies somewhere between the two I guess.
  10. lucasfer899 macrumors 6502


    Sep 23, 2012
    Go buy one, and if you don't like it, you have 14 days to return it.
    However, the retina machines are nowhere near problematic as they are made out to be at all. It's just that a few people like to stir things up whenever they have a bad apple.
  11. JeffiJers macrumors 6502a

    Sep 12, 2012
    I completely agree with you, I actually did Not run any IR tests on any of the computers I had.. figured they were to new to show any signs so I did not even bother.

    I do however, feel like apple SHOULD give retina macbook customers 2year warranty included in the price of the unit on just IR alone as it is prevalent in many cases. Units are not even a year old and look at the amount of issues to the point many apple stores have replacement screens on hand for service.
  12. Ploki macrumors 68020

    Jan 21, 2008
    The lag is software induced...
    The CPU bump is insignificant.

    That said, rMBP is awesome, love mine.
  13. justperry macrumors G3


    Aug 10, 2007
    In the core of a black hole.
    Yeah, I am aware it's a minor speed bump which does not make much difference, I also know it's software related, the GPU can easily drive the display.
    But, I do think they ironed out some problems which the first one had/has.

    Enjoy your rMBP.:)
  14. Essenar macrumors 6502a

    Oct 24, 2008
    Dude your machine is fine. If you really want a taste of OSX, buy a Classic Pro on Ebay from their unofficial Ebay power seller and just sell it when the refresh comes out. Even that's excessive. Get an ipad. lol
  15. calvol macrumors 6502a

    Feb 3, 2011
    Same here, my 2010 Air doing fine, waiting to see if any issues with the Haswell version.
  16. UBS28 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 2, 2012
    Any info on what issues have been resolved? :)
  17. Ploki macrumors 68020

    Jan 21, 2008
    How? It still ships with the same OS version.

    As far as HW changes go, I'm holding my breath till iFixit tears one apart
  18. eezacque Guest

    Feb 17, 2013
    You can still read about people having problems with fans running for no obvious reasons. The big issue for me is whether these machines have the same issues as previous generations, i.e. components dying due to excessive heat, leading to a prohibitively expensive logic board replacement that is not economical after guarantee expires. That question is not answered within a two weeks no-questions-asked return period.
  19. maxosx macrumors 68020

    Dec 13, 2012
    Southern California
    There's a very high likelihood it will be LG. The days of stellar Samsung displays are drawing to a close. Apple hates Samsung. No worries LG is not too bad.
  20. Ploki macrumors 68020

    Jan 21, 2008
    That's... Hearsay? Didn't happen to mine once since I got it.

    As for the second part, it's been half a year since the last release, they could hardly fix something that didn't pose as a problem until now?
  21. cxt210 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 26, 2013
    Really? Is the probability of an LG screen greater than Samsung? I don't understand this. I don't care the problems between Apple and Samsung. How can Apple take the risk of selling defective products even if it hates Samsung?

    How can you be so sure that it will be LG most probably?
  22. mrbigglessworth macrumors member

    Dec 5, 2012
  23. john500y2k macrumors member

    Feb 28, 2013

    Sorry Ploki I would very strongly disagree that the fans coming on at random is hearsay. I have now been through 4 machines over the past 2 weeks all with the same issue. It has been driving me nuts as I exchanged a perfectly great 2012 rMBP that did not have any of the same problems faced with the 4 2013 rMBP.

    There are some threads already here regarding this problem and several more on the apple support communities.

    From my own tests over the 4 units and from others it seems to be a problem somewhere with the SSD.

    The apple store took the stance of it's meant to do that at first. So explain why the 2012 did not? Then when presented with a video I took of the issue they agreed "it isn't quite normal". When my 4th unit failed the apple hardware test and sprung up a problem with the HDD/SATA they finally were convinced that "OK something is defiantly not correct."

    They offered me another exchange but after going backwards and forwards from the apple store and exchanging unit after unit only to be deflated every time when the problem occurred yet again I opted for money back on gift card and I will wait for a little bit of time for apple to sort the problem out.

    Fingers crossed
  24. maxosx macrumors 68020

    Dec 13, 2012
    Southern California
    Don't take my word for it, you'll see soon enough.
  25. takeshi74 macrumors 601

    Feb 9, 2011
    No. Discussion forum sites always skew the perception of the topic at hand. People post because they have problems or questions.

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