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LarryJoe33

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Running the latest beta. It seems Safari has a pretty good pause when redirecting to a site. Kind of hangs for a 2 seconds and then goes. Chrome isn't doing this. I know all the pros and cons of Safari vs. Chrome, but Safari seems overly and noticeably slow.

Are you experiencing this and if not is there something I can do to get it back to it's snappy self?
 

LarryJoe33

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Tried Google DNS and the other Open DNS, no luck, I actually think it got worse. It's like a 2 second delay. Bar moves about an inch quickly and then hangs for two seconds and loads the page quickly. Chrome doesn't do it. Frustrating, I like the clean efficiency of Safari.
 

h9826790

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My Mac had this problem back in Yosemite. Pure GPU driver issue. All HD7950 users had the same problem.
 

LarryJoe33

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Thanks. That's interesting, I would think a graphics driver could make Safari lag and not Chrome. For me, I get an immediate one inch load bar, a 1-2 second pause, then a full fast load.
 

LarryJoe33

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Ugh, this is painful, I just may have to go back to Chrome and it's ugly, cluttered layout. Not to mention the resource hog thing.

The difference in speed at the moment is measurable.
 

h9826790

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Ugh, this is painful, I just may have to go back to Chrome and it's ugly, cluttered layout. Not to mention the resource hog thing.

The difference in speed at the moment is measurable.

Make sure you report this to Apple. Hopefully they will fix it on the next update.
 

coolbreeze2

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I have the same problem with Safari since I updated to High Sierra on my MBP and on my iPad Pro since I updated to iOS 11. Most times Safari runs smooth but after a while it lags and hesitates. Sometimes I get the dreaded message, "Safari Can't Open This Page". I switch DNS servers and it improves for a while, then back to the same problem. I can't play any online games because at the most crucial time in the game it hangs and I'm forced to go out and come back in to continue. This is nerve wrecking!
 

LarryJoe33

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I just don't get it. Safari could be such a far superior browser for people like me that like a nice clean interface, integration with iOS and small footprint. Why can't Apple get Safari right for an extended period of time?
 

Chuzwuzzin

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You're not alone with this issue. I have the same problem. Looks like DNS lookup is slow for some reason but only with Safari. If it's a graphic driver issue it is applicable to a very wide range of cards (I'm running Radeon Pro 460 right now). I suspect it's something else.
 

elf69

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I have this on a 2010 macbook with geforce 320M 256MB GPU.

some time type web address in bar and hit enter.
Looks like it not doing anything for 2-3 seconds then blue bar loads 3/4 ways pause for 1-2 seconds then loads the page.

Chrome is smooth and not as bad to load same sites.
I learned to wait and be patient in safari.

My imac at home on El capitan is fine, it has a HD2400 GPU
 

LarryJoe33

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You're not alone with this issue. I have the same problem. Looks like DNS lookup is slow for some reason but only with Safari. If it's a graphic driver issue it is applicable to a very wide range of cards (I'm running Radeon Pro 460 right now). I suspect it's something else.
Thanks for the confirmation. I checked my iMac last night which is running straight High Sierra official release and it does exactly the same thing -- load bar goes about an inch instantly, Safari does nothing for 2-3 seconds and then loads fast. It doesn't do this with Chrome on that machine either. Probably should have checked that a while ago instead of troubleshooting and messing with public DNS settings. Once again, I wish Apple could just get Safari right and it stays right. I'll wait for a patch or bug fix. I reported it and I am sure others have as well.
 

h9826790

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I have the same problem with Safari since I updated to High Sierra on my MBP and on my iPad Pro since I updated to iOS 11. Most times Safari runs smooth but after a while it lags and hesitates. Sometimes I get the dreaded message, "Safari Can't Open This Page". I switch DNS servers and it improves for a while, then back to the same problem. I can't play any online games because at the most crucial time in the game it hangs and I'm forced to go out and come back in to continue. This is nerve wrecking!

I doubt if it's a Safari problem or system wide problem.

In my cMP, my Safari is fine, but if I stress the CPU close to 100%, Finder / iSight can be freeze occasionally. But if the CPU is at almost idle, it never happen.

Since you mention online games will freeze. I suspect that may also cause from high CPU usage.
 

coolbreeze2

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I doubt if it's a Safari problem or system wide problem.

In my cMP, my Safari is fine, but if I stress the CPU close to 100%, Finder / iSight can be freeze occasionally. But if the CPU is at almost idle, it never happen.

Since you mention online games will freeze. I suspect that may also cause from high CPU usage.

I do play games daily but I have these issues when not playing games too. I even clear history before and after playing games.
 
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