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Hard to believe people still use Firefox, it's slower than Safari in almost every way on my machine

lol your machine is the key phrase. Mine is really quick. Better cookie management, synchronization across my windows machines. Safari can't compete with that right now... maybe one day.
 
I see one thing underwhelming here is the graphics animation... There are glitches all over. Mountain Lion has more fluid animation than Mavericks.

Was this a clean install?

Mavericks is pretty much the smoothest OS X release since Snow Leopard on all of my Macs.

....

So, this is it? An updated OSX with a few new apps and features? That’s all there is? I was hoping for some big stuff. :(

Yes, it's an annual update to OS X and nothing more than that.

Apple've stopped with all the big 300+ features stuff 3 years ago when they released Lion and switched to annual release cycle. Which means, you'll see 300+ stuff broken down into three smaller OS updates, no more big releases.

Mavericks is the SL of Lion/ML, it won't include many front-end changes, it's all about optimizing the backend to make the OS more lighter, quicker, and just smooth.
 
it's, as said, the under-the-hood stuff. speed, stability. light on it's feet (so to speak).

i much prefer that to new gimmicks, personally. i just want my mac running fast, and stable... :D

but hard to "charge" for to the general public, no? That's why I think this one might be a free update.
 
but hard to "charge" for to the general public, no? That's why I think this one might be a free update.

in similar ways, snow leopard was a better leopard, mountain lion a better lion.
so mavericks..? either way, i don't mind paying $20 for a faster, leaner OS...

guess we'll see soon.. :cool:
 
Was this a clean install?

Mavericks is pretty much the smoothest OS X release since Snow Leopard on all of my Macs.

Sadly yes... I guess nothing beats Snow Leopard on my system.

The only plus point of Mavericks is smooth scrolling...
 
For $20, it's not a bad deal, especially since you can upgrade several macs for one price.
 
I was under the same impression as OP, then I realized the real improvements are under the hood. For instance, they considerably improved the memory management... I was going to buy an extra 2gig of ram but no longer need to :)
 
Mavericks is what Mountain Lion should have been, and Mountain Lion is what Lion should have been. Lion should not have happened as it was the "Vista" of OS X. It was the worst recent OS X release. I think it was mainly due to a management transition. Now that OS X management is settled, we are finally getting the quality we were getting before.
 
Firefox has many features, which are important for enterprise users. Safari is a good alternative, if you do not need the additional features of Firefox.

Firefox and Enterprise? Where did you get that?
At least in the Windows world (which 95% of the enterprises use), there is only one option: Internet Explorer (sad but true). The main reason for that is that IE allows full management and customization by using Active Directory Group Policies. Firefox doesn't even have proper support for Kerberos and Windows Authentication, so accessing intranets and company portals doesn't work well in most situations.
 
Mavericks is what Mountain Lion should have been, and Mountain Lion is what Lion should have been. Lion should not have happened as it was the "Vista" of OS X. It was the worst recent OS X release. I think it was mainly due to a management transition. Now that OS X management is settled, we are finally getting the quality we were getting before.

Management transition...? It was more like SJ being too obsessive in bringing iOS features Back To The Mac and last effort at screwing things up before kicking the bucket...

If it's a management transition, I would say the shocking departure of Bertrand Serlet...
 
iBooks…I’m afraid I’m still in the books printed on paper phase of my life. I really dislike eBooks.

I was actually under the mistaken impression this would also include access to magazines purchased from Newsstand. It was a big disappointment for me this was not the case.
 
And add ons, passwords, history, preferences and tabs synced across all devices including Linux as well as Windows and OSX. Mercury Browser also does iOS. Can't see Apple doing all that with Safari sadly.

No. Considering safari is only available on iOS and OS X.

Still the best browser on the Mac IMO.
 
No. Considering safari is only available on iOS and OS X.

Still the best browser on the Mac IMO.

Safari on Windows too. Being the best in my book also has to take into account useful and productive and being a multi platform user the fiery ferret wins.
 
Safari on Windows too. Being the best in my book also has to take into account useful and productive and being a multi platform user the fiery ferret wins.

Safari is now longer available for Windows. If you have it installed it will not be updated.

I'm sure the last update to Safari for Windows was May '12.

I'd rather they focus their attention on the OS X and iOS version. I don't own a Windows machine and only use them at work.
 
Safari is now longer available for Windows. If you have it installed it will not be updated.

I'm sure the last update to Safari for Windows was May '12.

I'd rather they focus their attention on the OS X and iOS version. I don't own a Windows machine and only use them at work.

Makes sense with Chrome making such inroads as a WebKit browser on Windows. That'll save a bit of space uninstalling it I hardly ever used it on Windows, perhaps just for iCloud tabs the last few times.

I hope they focus on getting all the glitches and bugs out of Maverick and not only Safari. Going to stick with 10.8.5 on the MBP until 10.9.1 is out!
 
Makes sense with Chrome making such inroads as a WebKit browser on Windows. That'll save a bit of space uninstalling it I hardly ever used it on Windows, perhaps just for iCloud tabs the last few times.

I hope they focus on getting all the glitches and bugs out of Maverick and not only Safari. Going to stick with 10.8.5 on the MBP until 10.9.1 is out!

Comparing 10.8.5 to 10.9.0 shows a big difference for me. Mavericks is much better in every respect and works much faster on my Macbook Pro. Especially Safari works much much better. I have very few issues that occur very rare, so I don't even think about going back to Mountain Lion.
 
Comparing 10.8.5 to 10.9.0 shows a big difference for me. Mavericks is much better in every respect and works much faster on my Macbook Pro. Especially Safari works much much better. I have very few issues that occur very rare, so I don't even think about going back to Mountain Lion.

Purely precautionary and through experience (Windows 2000 and Cheetah anyone??) I almost always wait for the .1 release before I upgrade the OS so the major bugs are ironed out. The only exception to that rule was Windows 7 which was far more rock solid than Vista even in RC build.

All my non Apple apps are working perfectly and stably on the MBP. It's a fresh setup on the Mac Pro I'm still in the process of setting all the apps up the Mac Pro on OSX and Windows. I don't mind jumping ship earlier than normal cos I'm only sticking one leg in the deep end!
 
Makes sense with Chrome making such inroads as a WebKit browser on Windows. That'll save a bit of space uninstalling it I hardly ever used it on Windows, perhaps just for iCloud tabs the last few times.

I hope they focus on getting all the glitches and bugs out of Maverick and not only Safari. Going to stick with 10.8.5 on the MBP until 10.9.1 is out!

Chrome's no longer a WebKit browser, they're using Blink now. So, at this point, there is no webkit browser on Windows beside Safari unless you count building the source code of Webkit on Windows.
 
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