Clearly something that is 4 generation forward should be giving you a better experience.
Curious, how was the battery health of your 8 Plus?
iPhone 13 Is the 13 THAT much better than the 8 Plus?
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Curious, how was the battery health of your 8 Plus?
janeauburn
macrumors 65816
I'm afraid I have to agree with the cynical approach of "don't update iOS unless you have to."
Having said that, I'm still happily using the 8 Plus on the latest iOS.
janeauburn
macrumors 65816
Agree. It's faster but really not that much. I always turn off animations, if that makes a difference.
Jeven Stobs
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I’d like to use my SE instead of my 11P, but even camera launch time prohibits me from doing so. It’s not at all comparable to iOS 9.
Well, of course it’s good to hear that your 6s+ still handles well, but just because that’s your experience, it isn’t representative for everyone’s A9 iPhone. Of course, my experience isn’t either, but it’s much more common that old iPhones don’t perform well with time.
I’d like to use my SE instead of my 11P, but even camera launch time prohibits me from doing so. It’s not at all comparable to iOS 9.
Mark Stone
macrumors 6502
It was in the low 80s.
Mark Stone
macrumors 6502
No, there was virtually no difference between the 8 Plus' performance on 14 and 15. The second part of your post I definitely agree with - the profit motivator is real! However, the 8 Plus was not affected by the iOS update.
blkjedi954
macrumors 6502
iPhone 6S Plus DID get the memo. Its a slow stuttering mess at times and hangs quite often. I use my 6S Plus as an iPod touch and iOS 15 most definitely ruined the experience. So I’m going to have to STRONGLY DISAGREE with your attempt at sarcasm.
blkjedi954
macrumors 6502
iOS 7 killed my iphone 4S, and iOS 11 rendered my iPad Air 1st Gen useless. Not sure if your account is genuine. Many forums addressing this issue. Honest discourse is always appreciated. Class action lawsuits have been filed and many videos on YT of people complaining about this precise issue. Keep up with the news, please.
blkjedi954
macrumors 6502
I think that people’s slow down are generally the same but if you’re not a power user then the slow down is acceptable or attributed to the age of the phone. Power users are acutely aware when software causes a nosedive in the user experience. So that “it should be everybody” comment is stale and lacks nuance. Tons of videos that show an ostensible degradation in performance after OS updates. Just because some don’t notice and are tolerant of this change doesn’t invalidate this point.
eyoungren
macrumors Nehalem
I walk every morning and use my 6s+ to stream SOMA FM straight to my BT Aftershokz Aeropex. I still handle text, email and calls with that phone. I also use it a lot to clock in for work (I work from home).
You can disagree, that's fine - but what is happening with your phone is not happening with mine.
For the record, as I stated above, the battery was replaced after six years.
No need to pepper your post with politeness when you’re only condescending and accusing me of lying. You’re only making yourself look disingenuous, on top of immature.
As anyone can ever really do, I merely shared my experience. There is nothing for me to gain here by lying.
I am aware that people complain of slow down. My experience does not align. You seem to interpret the sharing of my experience as an attempt to invalidate that of others. It’s not. It’s just another data point among others. I believe anyone who is interested in truth would be interested to know all data points and ask questions and come up with theories for any discrepancies, rather than instantly throwing around accusations toward anyone who might oppose or contradict their worldview.
That’s a valid theory.
In that case, it might be difficult to judge. A better comparison would be between the 2 models, each with brand new battery.
I do think anything A11 or better is virtually indistinguishable on day to day activities as they're all bionic models, meaning the OS have access to all the cores at all times.
Andeddu
macrumors 68000
There is definitely an observable difference in performance between my 8 and 12 in day-to-day activities. I noticed it immediately when I upgraded in 2020. It is minor, however, so the A11 is perfectly useable today and will continue to be useable at least until iOS 18/19.
The A14 has no slowdown on web-pages, social media, etc… it is buttery smooth, whereas things can become a little choppy on the A11 in contrast. I brought my 8 out a few weeks ago to charge the battery and upgraded to the latest firmware and played around with it for a number of hours.
It’s a minor QoL issue which won’t bother most users, including myself. I have purposely began using a Gold SE ‘16 with a brand new battery because I like the aesthetics and the A9 appears to run iOS 15 surprisingly well. I will revert back to the 12 once iOS 16 has been released and this thing is no longer supported.
Barbareren
macrumors 6502a
It wasn’t a surprise to me, but when I upgraded from my X to my 12 mini I immediately noticed an increase in speed (all things being the same). The people who claim that their old phones are just as fast as the newer models cannot be using any resource hungry apps.
HalfFullmoon
macrumors 6502
You are right, I only use web browser, like 90% of mobile phone users.
Mark Stone
macrumors 6502
I agree. In basic operations, there's little to no difference in speed between models - for example, simple tasks like swiping through the screens, and using simple apps that just load data to display, like Weather or Messages. However, if you start a process that makes the processor work, there's the difference. A simple but unique test is to go to Settings>General>iPhone Storage and see how long it takes the phone to populate the line graph. My new 13 does that task about 3 times faster than the 8 Plus did. And, of course, games like Minecraft that are resource heavy really show the difference.
My 6S is fine on 14.8. Its not "fast" but it doesn't have annoying pauses and stutters when doing basic stuff. It was slow with 15 and exhibited those issues. I rolled back to 14.8 when Apple was still signing it. It will stay there until I get a newer phone and this one is retired.
MacosMojave0715
macrumors newbie
My SE on 14.3 has pretty good performance on it, and it also has 87% battery health. I haven't really noticed a difference in performance since iOS 11, but I have noticed a difference in battery life. The battery lasts a lot shorter than it did on iOS 11 and iOS 9, but that could possibly be because my battery health is decreasing.
Ac1d 8urn
macrumors 6502
This is something that will always be highly subjective. Spec-wise, the 13 base and pro models are definitely much better. However, iPhones age much better than other phones so you're not really missing out on much by using one that's a few years old as long as it's in good shape.
I replaced my aging 128gb 8+ with an Apple refurbished 256gb a couple months ago and honestly the speed differences between it and my 13 pro are pretty negligible. Apps might open half a second slower but it doesn't impact daily use. It runs iOS 15 perfectly with no lag or stutter, the a11 still holds it's own quite well. Sometimes I do notice a bit of slowness compared to the 13 pro and some apps do close in the background which doesn't happen as much on the 13 pro, and the camera difference is definitely noticeable at times. Most shots are pretty comparable, but bright light shots can look blown out on the 8+ when they wouldn't be on the 13 pro. Otherwise though, it mostly comes down to which form factor and biometric you like best. For me the 8+ is much better than the 13 because I get the same iOS experience without OLED headaches, and touch ID works much better for me than face ID.
I replaced my aging 128gb 8+ with an Apple refurbished 256gb a couple months ago and honestly the speed differences between it and my 13 pro are pretty negligible. Apps might open half a second slower but it doesn't impact daily use. It runs iOS 15 perfectly with no lag or stutter, the a11 still holds it's own quite well. Sometimes I do notice a bit of slowness compared to the 13 pro and some apps do close in the background which doesn't happen as much on the 13 pro, and the camera difference is definitely noticeable at times. Most shots are pretty comparable, but bright light shots can look blown out on the 8+ when they wouldn't be on the 13 pro. Otherwise though, it mostly comes down to which form factor and biometric you like best. For me the 8+ is much better than the 13 because I get the same iOS experience without OLED headaches, and touch ID works much better for me than face ID.
Kyriakosss4
macrumors regular
Well, Apple actually DID this with older phones. Remember the CPU underclocking scandal in older models with a low-health batteries? They stepped back in doing it since that came out.
Not really. Throttling wasn't documented which caused the uproar. It is still there, automatically selected, unless you chose to disable it. Probably not a great idea to disable it.
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maxoakland
macrumors 65816
I upgraded to iOS 15 and haven’t experienced anything like that. My 8+ is the same as 14, which was about the same as 13, etc
maxoakland
macrumors 65816
I’m amazed that there are still people out there who have a hard time understanding what happened in that situation. You’re wrong and your conclusion is wrong. Look it up, it’s been how many years?