is the 3G iPad actually 3GS?

illiniry

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There's obviously a difference in speed between the iPhone 3G and 3GS so I'm just wondering if the IPad is actually 3GS or not. I'm assuming it is but if that's the case, why don't they say that?
 

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The S in 3GS stands for speed, but it is still a 3G phone, but with a faster CPU than the iPhone 3G.
The iPad has a faster CPU than any iPhone, thus no hint at 3GS has to be.
 

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Agreed. With its 1GHz processor the iPad is a good amount faster than the iPhone 3GS's 600MHz (that would be .6GHz) processor and thus the iPad will ironically make the 3Gs look slow.
 

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Agreed. With its 1GHz processor the iPad is a good amount faster than the iPhone 3GS's 600MHz (that would be .6GHz) processor and thus the iPad will ironically make the 3Gs look slow.
+1

but the speed of the 3G network will be the limiting factor
 

andalusia

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Agreed. With its 1GHz processor the iPad is a good amount faster than the iPhone 3GS's 600MHz (that would be .6GHz) processor and thus the iPad will ironically make the 3Gs look slow.
Ironically? They're different products. They are also different processors, so whilst no doubt the 1Ghz in the iPad is faster than the processor in the iPhone, you cannot compare speeds based on clock speeds of the processors alone.
 

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Agreed. With its 1GHz processor the iPad is a good amount faster than the iPhone 3GS's 600MHz (that would be .6GHz) processor and thus the iPad will ironically make the 3Gs look slow.
ironically? Where is the irony in the Ipad making the 3Gs look slow?
 

GeekLawyer

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Ironically? They're different products. They are also different processors, so whilst no doubt the 1Ghz in the iPad is faster than the processor in the iPhone, you cannot compare speeds based on clock speeds of the processors alone.
That's right. And they do completely different things. Even when I'm watching a movie or listening to music or playing a game on my 3GS, some part of the system has to be "listening" for incoming cellular activity (phone calls, SMS, etc). Different devices with different system resource needs and uses.
 

lw9090

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3G Speed

There's obviously a difference in speed between the iPhone 3G and 3GS so I'm just wondering if the IPad is actually 3GS or not. I'm assuming it is but if that's the case, why don't they say that?
If you are asking if it will support the new 3G 7.2 HSDPA when released then according to the tech specs. YES

UMTS/HSDPA ( 850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
 

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The S in 3GS stands for speed, but it is still a 3G phone, but with a faster CPU than the iPhone 3G.
The iPad has a faster CPU than any iPhone, thus no hint at 3GS has to be.
I think the S stands for size when it comes to the iPad :p
 

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ironically? Where is the irony in the Ipad making the 3Gs look slow?
Look up the definition of the word 'irony'. S stands for speed, when it will in actuality be slower than the iPad. Capiche?
 

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Yes the iPad will make the 3Gs look slow just like modern laptops make older supercomputers look slow, thus making the "super" part of supercomputer ironic. The fact that they for the most part are different products doesn't take away from the irony of the title.
 

MikhailT

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Seriously? Pls tell me the OP is joking?

iPad is a completely brand new device with its own custom SoC design. It has nothing in comparison to iPhone 3GS or iPod touch, not to mention 3GS has been out for almost a year now, of course iPad is going to make 3GS look slow. That's common sense. The size of the device suggest that Apple can afford to expand resources in iPad to exceed much greatly than the 3GS, it's supposed to make 3GS look slow.

The 4th gen iPhone is most likely to be based on A4 as well, so that's a much better comparison.

I can't believe we have to have a thread about this.
 

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Look up the definition of the word 'irony'. S stands for speed, when it will in actuality be slower than the iPad. Capiche?
And as was evidenced by many keynote watchers, the iPad is in the exact same product category as the iPhone is, thus the iPhone and the iPad are directly comparable.


There is no irony involved, as the iPhone is on its own, as is the iPad.
The 3GS, thus the S, refers to the iPhone.

We may see an iPad S or X though.


And lots of useless threads coming April. More of course.
 

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Did you even watch the keynote?

Steve Jobs clearly stated iPad is in its own category between the mobile devices and the laptops. Remember that? The three tiers?
Yeah I watched it.

I was referring to the use I quoted, who compared the 3GS name with the iPad's speed.

The iPhone is on its own, thus the name 3GS is not ironical, just because the iPad is faster than the iPhone 3GS.

In my second sentence I even wrote, that each product is on its own.

I make the appropriate edits to convey some kind of sarcasm.
 

MikhailT

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Yeah I watched it.

I was referring to the use I quoted, who compared the 3GS name with the iPad's speed.

The iPhone is on its own, thus the name 3GS is not ironical, just because the iPad is faster than the iPhone 3GS.

In my second sentence I even wrote, that each product is on its own.

I make the appropriate edits to convey some kind of sarcasm.
Sarcasm on the Internet needs to be indicated with a sarcasm mark or something, doesn't work well without the body language. I edited my post to just show the pic instead.
 

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op. do you even know what 3g is? 3g is internet not ram. the s means a faster iphone 3g ram wise.
It's not really internet per se. One can just use the internet, most prominently the www service, with the 3G network.


International Mobile Telecommunications-2000 (IMT-2000)', better known as 3G or 3rd Generation, is a family of standards for mobile telecommunications defined by the International Telecommunication Union,[1] which includes GSM EDGE, UMTS, and CDMA2000 as well as DECT and WiMAX. Services include wide-area wireless voice telephone, video calls, and wireless data, all in a mobile environment. Compared to 2G and 2.5G services, 3G allows simultaneous use of speech and data services and higher data rates (up to 14.0 Mbit/s on the downlink and 5.8 Mbit/s ). Thus, 3G networks enable network operators to offer users a wider range of more advanced services while achieving greater network capacity through improved spectral efficiency.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G




op. do you even know what 3g is? 3g is internet not ram. the s means a faster iphone 3g ram wise.
It means faster CPU. Speed is derived from a CPU, amount is derived from RAM.
 

MacinJosh

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Just think of it this way:

Compared to the iPhone 3G, the "s" in 3Gs stands for "speed"
Compared to the iPad, the "s" in 3Gs stands for "slow"

Easy.
 

t0mat0

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IS the OP's question - What speed will the 3G be?

Fair enough - It's worth also pointing it'll do below 3G also (e.g. GPRS, Edge).
 

nateharr

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IS the OP's question - What speed will the 3G be?

Fair enough - It's worth also pointing it'll do below 3G also (e.g. GPRS, Edge).
That's what I got from the question.

My understanding was that the OP was asking whether the iPad was equipped to make the transition to 7.2 mbps 3G connection once AT&T finally upgrades their network.

I'm pretty sure the chipset is the same when it comes to a 3G network connection, however I do not know this.

Very good question OP. I'm sure most people would assume it has the same potential that the 3G(s) does.

Apple does boast it as the "best way" to view the internet. But that may be covered by wifi.

Who knows, it's nebuloze.
 

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My understanding was that the OP was asking whether the iPad was equipped to make the transition to 7.2 mbps 3G connection once AT&T finally upgrades their network.

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You got that from this?

There's obviously a difference in speed between the iPhone 3G and 3GS so I'm just wondering if the IPad is actually 3GS or not. I'm assuming it is but if that's the case, why don't they say that?
The question was nebulous, as speed can refer to more than CPU and network speed.

But if you're right, good reading skills!
 

MikhailT

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You got that from this?



The question was nebulous, as speed can refer to more than CPU and network speed.

But if you're right, good reading skills!
No, his reading skills has nothing to do with the OP's bad writing skills. It's the OP's responsibility to be more specific and ask the right questions, not the other way around.