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Larik

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Hi all. I'm currently using the Air from 2010 and it has been by far my most reliable laptop as I've had several windows laptops die on me since then. It's getting real slow though so looking to upgrade. I'm looking for something that's reliable and that will still be usable in 5 years time. I will mainly be using it for my physics studies, and I doubt i will be doing much else outside Netflix, Skype, browsing and things like that.

I am also considering the pro without the touch bar since this is around the same price. But I am a bit worried about the keyboard and whether it will be as reliable as the Air. What do you guys think?
 
Hi all. I'm currently using the Air from 2010 and it has been by far my most reliable laptop as I've had several windows laptops die on me since then. It's getting real slow though so looking to upgrade. I'm looking for something that's reliable and that will still be usable in 5 years time. I will mainly be using it for my physics studies, and I doubt i will be doing much else outside Netflix, Skype, browsing and things like that.

I am also considering the pro without the touch bar since this is around the same price. But I am a bit worried about the keyboard and whether it will be as reliable as the Air. What do you guys think?

I think the MacBook Pro will get more future proof than the MBA, but in my case, the price was the main issue to get the MBA. Is you are a moderate user, it will last at least 6 or 8 years. My MacBook Pro 2009 still works, but it takes an eternity to open video files or having multiple tabs opened.
 
Heh...it's 2018 silly goose! :p (I initially typed 2017 myself!!) I think there are benefits and drawbacks to all of the three Apple laptops, personally.

I've discussed the Air vs. retina MacBook in another thread which I will copy the reply from.

The MacBook Air has the known factor of durability on its side. IMO, it's still a solid pick in 2018. That said, my Air was replaced with a retina MacBook, which I am just absolutely delighted with. The long-term durability of the keyboard of the rMB and MBP is certainly a valid concern.

My subjective take on both...

The MacBook is the most extreme that portability gets and it prioritizes everything else for this. For highly mobile users, it is a godsend. The 2017 has huge improvements over previous versions, with a much improved keyboard (I despised the keyboard on the 2015-2016 models), battery life, CPU (with an inherently better ability to sustain performance - I use mine to frequently run a second Windows OS as a virtual machine.) However, like previous MacBook generations, it uses legacy USB, and it only has one USB port. For wired devices or those wanting to use external 4k displays, this presents several challenges. This single port blends best when someone uses cloud storage or NAS more so than DAS. It's screen and trackpad are far superior to the MacBook Air. You lose MagSafe and its ability to prevent an, "oh crappy I done trippy-knocky-over", but now you can get a quality braided powercord that is independently certified for $9.99, which I like a lot given how the MagSafe cords can wear quickly. The 2017 version is so different from the original they practically should have renamed it. They keyboard uses a second generation butterfly mechanism - it is definitely more delicate than the traditional scissor mechanism used on the MBA. It (at least the 2017 version) has an impressive ability to maintain a reasonably good battery life under a continuous heavy load, even when the CPU is consistently running at twice its base frequency. Minus the legacy IO, it's really come of age. I love mine, was floored by the quality of the fit & finish (even for Apple's already high standards), and I'd go as far to say it's my favorite Apple product to date except for my AirPods. If you are not using a ton of wired devices, or if this is not your primary machine, or you like having maximum portability, I would favor the rMB.

The MacBook Air is still reasonably portable, and I still have love for mine. It is arguably the ultimate performer in battery life. Where as it also has legacy USB (just with the type-A connector instead of the type-C connector of the rMB), it features two legacy USB ports, not to mention TB2. It has a keyboard that, while subjective in terms of how much one may "like" it, is arguably far more durable than what the MacBook uses. While its CPU is several generations older, it does have the benefit of a fan. From what I have observed, it seems that the Air can withstand more abuse than other Apple portables. The lack of a USB-C port is probably going to be a downside several years from now, but it certainly won't be the end-all. You keep MagSafe, but you are also stuck paying $80 a pop for an OEM replacement or risking a potentially dangerous 3rd party option that no independent body offers certification for. The SD card slot does mean you can also add up to 256 GB of internal flash storage using something like the Transcend JetDrive Lite, and this will perform like a good HDD, making it suitable for media and document storage. As I was using mine purely as a portable machine, and the 10-ish hours runtime of the rMB is sufficient for my usage, my rMB is now the one I always have on me. If this is going to be your only computer and you use a lot of wired devices, you want battery life above everything else, or you like to eat over your computer, I would favor the MBA.

(If you are going to be typing all day long, I recommend using both for a little while before making a decision. I'm fine with either keyboard, but you will likely notice that some Users have a very strong preference for one design over the other.)

I assume you are looking at base models because they are the ones that frequently go on sale. In this respect, the MBA's advantage is that you can often find it less for the rMB (but at the expense of a 128 GB SSD, which can quickly become a huge PITA.) With the rMB, you can often find it for a pretty reasonable sale price as well, plus it comes with a 256 GB base SSD.
 
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As far as computing power, battery life, and reliability, the air is great and is future-proof. The main issue with the Air is the screen... I have a 2014 Air, and I love everything about it except the screen. It's honestly not a screen that you should be buying in 2018.
 
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Thanks for the replies. So the screen on the air is still the same as in 2014?

I guess another option for me would be to try to suffer through another semester with this one and wait and see what apple will come out with this year.
 
I'm using a 2012 air (11.6" 1.7GHz i5, 4GB ram and 64GB SSD) after my 2010 MacBook (13.3" 2.4GHz C2D, 8GB ram 240GB SSD) died.

I love it!
just the low ssd and only 4gb ram bit limiting but beggars cannot be choosers as they say.

It is super reliable and love the thunderbolt port two as still got lan and firewire and screen connections without too much bulk on the actual laptop.

but wish could have afforded the 13" model though.
 
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The Air is a perfectly usable computer... it all works and can do basically anything except high end work. it's just a weird value right now buying a new one. If you can get a decent used one, refurbished or sale Air it would be fine.

Even though Apple seems content to up the price of entry into the Mac world, the Air still has old CPUs and screen technology. But to use macOS on the cheap, you can't really get anything except the Air. The mini is an even more neglected model...

I'm perfectly happy with my 2015 model. It's almost seamless in how I use it. I don't even think about it anymore, it's just there helping me out and doing the work I need it to do. This Air still works.

It boils down to cost/screen. Is the price of the Pro worth the upgrade in screen technology to you?

And maybe consider if the new keyboard bug you, and if the potential reliability concerns worry you.
 
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