Is the Dell 22" E228WFP a good monitor? (link)

[overcast]

PVA is really good too.

PVA is a trade off, you get better image quality than TN, but piss poor response times compared to both IPS and TN.

 

[Synchro]

Hyundai W240D

FWIW I'm very pleased with my Hyundai W240D 24" LCD. Unusually it has both DVI and HDMI, so I can plug in my G4 and MacBook (and a PC via VGA) at the same time. It's extremely cheap in the UK, not sure about the US, and it's (according to reviews) at least as good as the Dell 2407. If anything it's too bright - I turn the brightness down to about 15%! Only other gripe is that the physical controls are completely invisible in normal use - I've worked around it by sticking a little label underneath them. I bought mine here:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/133517

 

[Sesshi]

PVA is a trade off, you get better image quality than TN, but piss poor response times compared to both IPS and TN.

I sometimes wonder if many of you are just sitting there reading off specs (wrongly) and quoting them (wrongly) instead of actually buying these monitors and looking at them. I probably don't need to remind you that is incredibly sad. For the panel junkies - what panel does the professional-use Eizo use? Oh yes, PVA. The truth is that the performance of current PVA and IPS products in real life are broadly comparable. Have a problem with your display? Send it back and make sure it's a problem with the design before bleating about it.

And also, the truth is that for the vast majority of users a TN monitor is perfectly OK if you're not doing critical colour work. How hard this is to understand for some people on this forum I don't understand. Many of us - and I'm sure many of you who so authoritatively quote this stuff- are not professionals in need of colour accuracy (which by the way - Apple monitors also don't deliver unless calibrated).

I use a mix of 30" (Dell, Apple), 24" (Dell, Eizo) and 23" (Apple) monitors usually but I have absolutely no problems sitting in front of a 22" TN for non-colour-critical stuff, general office things and gaming. However, I think a 22" is about the maximum size you can go with a TN monitor before colour shifts become very noticeable as you normally move around the desk.

The Dell E228WFP is a decent example of a 22" TN monitor. It has good colours 'out of the box', a reasonable adjustment to get it looking basically right and is good value for the screen real estate you get. Consider the Samsung 22 inchers too - some of them have a good rep.

 

[dante@sisna.com]

I sometimes wonder if many of you are just sitting there reading off specs (wrongly) and quoting them (wrongly) instead of actually buying these monitors and looking at them. I probably don't need to remind you that is incredibly sad. For the panel junkies - what panel does the professional-use Eizo use? Oh yes, PVA. The truth is that the performance of current PVA and IPS products in real life are broadly comparable. Have a problem with your display? Send it back and make sure it's a problem with the design before bleating about it.

And also, the truth is that for the vast majority of users a TN monitor is perfectly OK if you're not doing critical colour work. How hard this is to understand for some people on this forum I don't understand. Many of us - and I'm sure many of you who so authoritatively quote this stuff- are not professionals in need of colour accuracy (which by the way - Apple monitors also don't deliver unless calibrated).

I use a mix of 30" (Dell, Apple), 24" (Dell, Eizo) and 23" (Apple) monitors usually but I have absolutely no problems sitting in front of a 22" TN for non-colour-critical stuff, general office things and gaming. However, I think a 22" is about the maximum size you can go with a TN monitor before colour shifts become very noticeable as you normally move around the desk.

The Dell E228WFP is a decent example of a 22" TN monitor. It has good colours 'out of the box', a reasonable adjustment to get it looking basically right and is good value for the screen real estate you get. Consider the Samsung 22 inchers too - some of them have a good rep.

Well said. Nice perspective.

Dante