Is the display always on?

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  1. iphone joe macrumors regular

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    When your arm is down is the display on or off? Or does it come on when you lift your arm to check the time?
     
  2. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    Its off. The display comes on when you lift your arm or tap the screen. (you can turn off the arm lift and make it manual)
     
  3. iphone joe thread starter macrumors regular

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    Does it work smooth or is there a delay for the display to come on?
     
  4. gwynne macrumors 68000

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    It feels smooth to me. Someone looking for a problem might think it's too slow. < 1 second, I'd say.
     
  5. iphone joe thread starter macrumors regular

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    Is there anyway to keep the display always on?
     
  6. mattopotamus macrumors G4

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    There is a slight delay. Coming from a pebble it is sort of annoying. You can tap the screen to activate the display also. You actually have to lift your arm though. If you just tilt it, there is a good chance it will not activate.
     
  7. Blackstick macrumors 6502

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    Nope, keep in mind the Watch is fighting the laws of physics with respect to achieving 18 hours of average-use battery life. Battery/display/CPU technology isn't there yet to keep the display powered on all the time -- I'd say another few years.
     
  8. simonx314 macrumors regular

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    Android Wear has an "always on" feature but it kills the battery life.
     
  9. Blackstick macrumors 6502

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    I'd love a passive screen with just the clock, sort of like a pebble - but I don't think the OLED screen is efficient enough to run 18 hours even with minimal info on screen.
     
  10. mattopotamus macrumors G4

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    Actually an OLED would be the best thing for an "always on" feature. If you have a black background those pixels are off.
     
  11. simonx314 macrumors regular

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    An OLED continuously consumes power while lighting up the pixels to show the time. A passive display only consumes power when the pixels are updated.
     
  12. Blackstick macrumors 6502

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    In that sense, we could see this a lot sooner... I doubt it'd be more than basic time info, but nice to have at a glance without "waking" the watch
     
  13. mattopotamus macrumors G4

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    True, but it could be minimal pixels it would need to light up. I wish they would give us the option and let us decide. I am ending my day with at least 50% battery.
     
  14. pcsguy88, Apr 29, 2015
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    Yep. My Zenwatch has an always on OLED that goes to a low power version (black background with white hands or digits) of whatever custom watch face you choose after a bit of inactivity. My battery will go around 30hrs with the always on feature activated, but I charge it at bedtime when it is around 30%.

    This is my single complaint about the Apple Watch (not counting Apple's insane policies of proprietary faces and bands). It has some great features like Apple Pay, but I'm thinking the Retina display is a miss if it uses too much battery to be a functioning watch.

    Here is an example of one of my watch faces in normal and standby mode:

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    I really think Apple needs to at least give you the option of always on.
     
  15. profmatt macrumors 65816

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    That's not my experience. Sitting down and turning my wrist to look at the watch is enough to make the it come on. No arm-lifting required.
     
  16. mattopotamus macrumors G4

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    I just have to make a pretty drastic arm tilt. It would be better if it was always on so you could just look at it.
     
  17. Cory Bauer macrumors 6502a

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    What's problematic is that turning off the wrist raise feature (or wrist detection as it's called in the settings), you lose 1.) Apple Pay, 2.) Lock to wrist, 3.) Auto-unlocking when the iPhone is unlocked, and some activity measurements. That's a LOT of features lost.
     
  18. DavidLynch macrumors 6502a

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    I'm fairly sure Wrist Detection and Activate on Wrist Raise are two different settings. Wrist Detection is what locks the watch if it is removed from your wrist and this needs to be on for Apple Pay. Wrist Raise is a separate setting that can be safely turned off without affecting any of that.
     
  19. mightyjabba macrumors 65816

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    You are correct. These are unrelated features. You can't actually turn off wrist detection, but you can turn off the passcode if you want, which will disable Apple Pay.
     
  20. Cory Bauer macrumors 6502a

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    Really? For the life of me I can't find a separate setting to disable "activate on wrist raise". Under general there's a sub menu named "Activate on Wrist Raise" that lets you select "Show Watch Face" or "Resume Previous Activity", but no option to actually disable/enable the feature altogether.

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    Which, much to my pleasant surprise is what the Apple Watch has for a screen. It looks fantastic in the dark because the screen isn't backlit illuminated; blacks are truly black.
     
  21. simonx314 macrumors regular

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    Wrist Raise/Detection are intertwined. Look in the iPhone Apple Watch app > General.

    You can also change Wrist Detection settings from the Watch's Settings if you don't want to get out your phone.
     
  22. mightyjabba macrumors 65816

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    I see where the confusion is coming from. They do call it "wrist detection" in the app as a blanket term for both features. However if you look on the settings app on the watch itself you can disable the "activate on wrist raise" feature.
     
  23. simonx314 macrumors regular

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    It looks like the "Wrist Raise" on/off setting to wake the display is only available on the Watch settings app, not the iPhone companion app. Strange.
     
  24. DavidLynch macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, I've noticed some minor weird inconsistencies between the watch and phone settings apps.
     
  25. pcsguy88 macrumors newbie

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    So why noes Apple give us always on option? This makes it even worse if it has the ability for a low power face and they won't let the user choose to use it. Oh wait... Apple and choice... :rolleyes:
     

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