Is the general consensus here to use Apple Mail?

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by dudeslife, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. dudeslife macrumors member


    Jul 25, 2011
    Dumped Airmail this week, not really because of the subscription, but because they were looking for handouts without fixing year old bugs in the iOS version so I dumped both iOS and Mac. If the developers were more attentive, I would gladly drop $10 a year. Has anyone tried Thunderbird? Any other suggestions? or is everyone using Apple Mail? Thanks for any info.
  2. vertical smile macrumors 68040

    vertical smile

    Sep 23, 2014
    I use Apple mail, and have been ever since it launched.

    I have been happy with it, other than it sometimes label mail as "junk" from addresses that I have been receiving mail from for many years. All of a sudden, the mail app would decide it is junk.

    Overall it is good, but the only other mail app I have used recently was Outlook.
  3. NoBoMac Moderator


    Staff Member

    Jul 1, 2014
    I've been using Mac and iOS Mail for over a decade now, and happy with them: my email needs are simple, and not getting a ton of it. And no subscriptions, licenses to buy, etc.

    I have used Thunderbird in the past, and was happy with it as well, but, it's been over a decade since last used it, so not sure what, if anything, new in it.
  4. Ulenspiegel macrumors 68040


    Nov 8, 2014
    Land of Flanders and Elsewhere
    Same here. Sometimes it acts up but it meets my needs.
  5. The Hammer macrumors 6502

    The Hammer

    Jun 19, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
  6. petvas macrumors 601


    Jul 20, 2006
    Mannheim, Germany
    I use Microsoft Outlook but only because I have an O365 account that I want to use. Apple Mail works also with O365 though, but I prefer the functionality of Outlook. The same applies also on iOS and iPadOS. For people that just want a good mail client, Apple Mail is more than enough though.
  7. tarsins macrumors 6502a


    Sep 15, 2009
    Tried a lot of email clients, both MacOS and iOS, but always come back to Apple Mail. It's simple and works well, especially with Exhange.
  8. Vjosullivan macrumors 6502a


    Oct 21, 2013
    I got a new iMac recently and decided to keep to a minimum the number of apps that I loaded onto it. So I switched from Chrome to Safari and from Outlook to Apple Mail to see how well they would perform.

    So far, the change has been seamless and I haven't seen a need to download third party versions of these apps. These days all browsers have much the same capabilities, as do most mail readers.
  9. Starfia macrumors 6502a


    Apr 11, 2011
    I’ve used Apple Mail for my iCloud e-mail address – certainly my preferred client.

    I don’t enjoy the way it fully integrates multiple accounts to a unified inbox, though, so I use Spark for my Gmail account. (It certainly makes Gmail look and feel much nicer than its native app or web interface.)
  10. adrianlondon macrumors 65816


    Nov 28, 2013
    Before I got a Mac (back in 2013) I used Windows exclusively. For mail, I used Thunderbird as I could tailor it how I liked. I'd been using Thunderbird for years.

    When I moved to MacOS, I initially used Apple Mail. Didn't like it but forced myself to use it for a week. Still didn't like it so moved back to Thunderbird. Wow, Thunderbird looked so old fashioned! Switched back to Apple Mail and have used it ever since.

    I tried Spark on my phone, realised I didn't need any of the functionality it offered and that I trusted Apple more with my IMAP passwords than Spark, so changed back.
  11. Duckhunter macrumors newbie

    Jan 27, 2014
    I have used Apple mail since the beginning and have had no problems with it.
  12. Sital macrumors 68000


    May 31, 2012
    New England
    I used Apple Mail on macOS and iOS for a long time until it started taking my mail accounts offline several times a day. So then I switched to Airmail on both platforms and was happy with that until their recent switch to subscription on iOS. So now I'm back to Apple Mail on macOS and the Gmail app on iOS. So far, so good. I just wish Apple would add some more functionality to Mail, to bring it up to par with most other email apps.
  13. dudeslife thread starter macrumors member


    Jul 25, 2011
    For the past few days on the Mac I have been using both Apple Mail and Outlook. I prefer Outlook but the fact there is no way that I have found to quickly send mails to Omnifocus 3. I don't really want to have to forward them thru the mail. At least Apple Mail has the services menu in lieu of a share sheet to process mails to OF3 and Fantastical. I have googled Outlook to OF3 scripts and it looks like a big non functioning mess with nobody actually sharing a working one.. it seems there is some difference in OF3 that renders the OF2 scripts useless. I am starting to hate e-mail on all Apple devices.
  14. vkd macrumors 6502a


    Sep 10, 2012
    So just take your hatred out on all your Apple devices, then, and buy a PC. Job done.
  15. rpmurray macrumors regular

    Feb 21, 2017
    Back End of Beyond
    I've heard that Apple is crapping all over Mail in Catalina by turning it into a clone of the iOS Mail app.
  16. dudeslife, Jul 19, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2019

    dudeslife thread starter macrumors member


    Jul 25, 2011
    apple devices have other uses than low power e-mail. thanks for the suggestion tho.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 19, 2019 ---
    the iOS app is even more worthless than the Mac version. 2019 and no share sheet unless you are selecting/copying text. e-mail arrives and then... nothing. don't expect to send it to fantastical or omnifocus or evernote or anywhere...

    poor omnifocus and evernote have to set up e-mail addresses for you to forward your e-mail into their apps.. apple at its most pathetic.
  17. Erehy Dobon macrumors regular

    Erehy Dobon

    Feb 16, 2018
    My e-mail needs are pretty basic as I don’t use my Apple devices for work e-mail. The default applications are very simple and straightforward to use.

    I do use third party e-mail programs however. I use them to check auxiliary accounts that I don’t want cluttering up my main inbox. I realize there are probably ways I could filter messages but frankly I find that using a different program reminds me that I am not in my primary account.

    On my Mac I am using Mozilla Thunderbird for my secondary accounts. On my iOS devices, I am using the Edison app. Both have notifications, badges, sounds, etc. turned off to minimize distractions.
  18. bbrks macrumors 65816


    Dec 17, 2013
    I use Apple mail app for my private account and MS Outlook for my business account. Both work perfectly for my needs.. That's all I need :)
  19. dudeslife thread starter macrumors member


    Jul 25, 2011
    how is that Thunderbird. It looks sharp. Are you able to share mails into OF3 or Fantastical?
  20. Erehy Dobon macrumors regular

    Erehy Dobon

    Feb 16, 2018
    I have no idea. I don't use Thunderbird for such purposes. As I stated, my e-mail needs are very simple.

    Thunderbird is free so it is only yourself that is holding you from trying it. It costs nothing. In any case no one here can tell you what you will enjoy the best in the same we can't tell you what shoes to wear or car to drive.

    Thunderbird will turn 16 years old in about a week. Pity you have not bothered to check it out even once.

    Anyhow, best of luck.
  21. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68040

    Aug 28, 2012
    Between the coasts
    Did you know you can hide the unified inbox?

    In Mail go to Mailboxes. Tap Edit. De-select the check-box to the left of All Inboxes.
  22. Starfia macrumors 6502a


    Apr 11, 2011
    Thank you, you're right – my fault for being brief and vague. (I've also been talking about Mail for Mac, if that wasn't clear, but I think that's true there too.)

    I think what I meant was that this intermingling of accounts seems to pervade the app; even if you do that, Mail surfaces one logical "Sent" box, you can choose your outgoing server on a per-message basis or rely on one if the other fails. That might work if I was trying to juggle multiple e-mail addresses while pining for a single one. Instead, I want those accounts isolated in their own atom-tight clean rooms.
  23. user_xyz macrumors regular


    Nov 30, 2018
    Apple mail Blows!!
    I use Outlook-never lets me down! :D
  24. oikos macrumors newbie

    Jun 12, 2013
    Agreed about Mail. I never have figured out how to sort messages in it - utterly useless.
    Outlook has had a few problems over the years, but the difference is like an F15 vs a hot air ballon. Not even close.
  25. purplealert macrumors newbie

    Dec 17, 2018
    Devon, UK
    I get a lot of mail, use many mail accounts and I find that Apple Mail simply can't handle the volume that I receive or the filtering I perform on it to make everything manageable. I always found apple mail got bogged down in the indexing of messages and I dislike the way it inlines images with no sensible way to treat them as attachments properly when I receive messages from apple mail users.

    I now use postbox,, which I believe was originally based on thunderbird. It's paid for, cross platform and very powerful. I like the way it handles multiple account views; the tagging and filtering are second to none. If you have complex email needs then I suggest you try it out. I have no affiliation to them other than being a very happy customer.

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