Is the iMac Pro the end of the Mac pro product line?

ironman78

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As we all saw yesterday Apple will release a new iMac. The iMac Pro! With amazing specs.
Personally I think that Apple will no longer invest any time or money in a new Mac Pro.
The Mac Pro 2013 was the last one. It ended yesterday!

What do you guys think?
 

AmazingHenry

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Yes, the next logical step for Apple would be to remove the Mac Pro, so I'm 95% sure they will drop it once the iMac Pro comes out.

They will also likely drop the MacBook Air and Mac mini at the same time as it would simplify the lineup. MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac, iMac Pro.
 
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AidenShaw

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Yes, the next logical step for Apple would be to remove the Mac Pro, so I'm 95% sure they will drop it once the iMac Pro comes out.
Very possible, in spite of what the Apple Amigos said about a modular MP during their private interview with a couple of journalists.

People will forget (well, many of them will) if December 2018 comes around and there's been no mention of the mMP. Some will find the iMac Xeon "good enough", others will have moved to the Z-Series and other far more capable offerings.

I'm frankly astounded that Apple pre-announced the iMac Xeon seven months before availability. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect )
 
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psingh01

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I don't think so. Their recent comments indicate they just began working on a new mac pro but it won't be ready until next year. The fact that this iMac won't be ready for another 6 months tells me that it probably underwent some recent changes from its original design.

As if whatever the original 'iMac pro" was going to be was not good enough and they decided to beef it up to act as a stop gap for those that really need a Mac Pro.

They really dropped the ball on pro users and it will take them a while to recover. Without this announcement what would they have to show at WWDC? New iPads and a minor spec bump on notebooks that have their own issues. That would not have gone over well.

The Mac Pro will return, maybe at WWDC '18. Probably will be more expensive than the iMac Pro too.
 

Logix1

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"In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display."

The iMac Pro is not a replacement for a proper Mac Pro, and i'm sure many will wait for the 2018 Mac pro. i am one of them
 

AidenShaw

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Apple's press release on the iMac Pro specifically states that another Mac Pro and Apple display are coming.
Not worth the pixels that they're printed on.

At one point Phil My Ass stood up on stage and said that the tube was the Mac Pro for the next ten years. Do you remember that?

Apple may be honest, or they may be trying to stem the defections to the Z-Series before they change their story again.

And even if they are honest today - if a year from now they realize that the mMP will be a failure from day one they need the flexibility to change their story.
 
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William Payne

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Not worth the pixels that they're printed on.

At one point Phil My Ass stood up on stage and said that the tube was the Mac Pro for the next ten years. Do you remember that?
How many people have gotten married with the line "till death do us part" only to be divorced a few years later.

Those people thought they were serious as well. Things change.
 

ActionableMango

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The gist of the press event was that certain types of customers didn't have their needs met, particularly those who like expansion and upgrades, and so they are going to make a new Mac Pro to meet their needs.

The iMac Pro does absolutely nothing for those customers. In fact, by marrying a computer with a monitor, they've arguably made it less upgradeable than a 6,1--you'll never be able to change that display.

I guess anything can happen, but I believe they are working on the modular Mac Pro.
 
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William Payne

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What I don't get is people are suddenly going on about how they don't want an all in one and how it has no PCIe and blah blah.

Well if that is the case, those people would never have been satisfied by any iMac Apple has released let alone the iMac pro.
 

William Payne

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Which is why many of those customers are clinging to aging Mac Pro towers.
I'm one of them. I have a cheese grater for all the reasons people still use them.

But I love iMacs, I think the iMac pro will be awesome. Will I buy it? No probably not as an all in one doesn't suit my needs.

But that doesn't Make iMacs any less of a machine.
 
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flyinmac

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What I don't get is people are suddenly going on about how they don't want an all in one and how it has no PCIe and blah blah.

Well if that is the case, those people would never have been satisfied by any iMac Apple has released let alone the iMac pro.
Exactly. Many of us have been saying "no" to the iMac for years.

Apple would have come closer to a suitable stop-gap by beefing up and supercharging the mini while we waited for the mMP.
 
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William Payne

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Exactly. Many of us have been saying "no" to the iMac for years.

Apple would have come closer to a suitable stop-gap by beefing up and supercharging the mini while we waited for the mMP.
Why are people so shocked/surprised?!!! They told us the iMac pro was coming at the same time they told us a Modular Mac Pro was coming afew months ago!!!!

Nobody should be surprised here. This was never a stop gap it was always intended to be its own machine.
 

flyinmac

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Why are people so shocked/surprised?!!! They told us the iMac pro was coming at the same time they told us a Modular Mac Pro was coming afew months ago!!!!

Nobody should be surprised here. This was never a stop gap it was always intended to be its own machine.
We're not "surprised". But still as disinterested in the iMac form as we always were.
 

William Payne

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We're not "surprised". But still as disinterested in the iMac form as we always were.
Don't buy it then! It really is that simple.

I don't watch bugga all television. Really have very little interest in TV. So I pay zero attention to anything going on in the high end television world.

Yet for every person like me out there is an equal or greater amount of people who love television and must have the biggest latest and greatest TV.

Yet I'll never trash TV's just because I'm not interested.

I just know that I'm not the market manufacturers are trying to sell to and I don't make any fuss over it.
 

NY Guitarist

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Apple may be honest, or they may be trying to stem the defections to the Z-Series before they change their story again.
A decision was made at my workplace to transition away from Apple and go with Z-640 and Z-840 workstations. Apple lost a loyal business customer, not only for high-end computers but smartphones and laptops.
 

AidenShaw

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A decision was made at my workplace to transition away from Apple and go with Z-640 and Z-840 workstations.
Clearly a wise move for almost any business that isn't tied to FCPX or other Apple-only software.

And if your business is tied to FCPX or other Apple-only software - it's time to re-examine that bondage.
 

DearthnVader

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The iMac Pro is everything the next gen nMP would have been, plus a 5k screen. It fits the market niche for a quiet Pro machine, that is externally upgradable, with 4 TB3 ports.

Leaves Apple free to give us what we really want, a powerhouse Pro machine with multiple PCI-E slots, 20+ Xeon cores, 512 GB of Ram, and TB3/10 Gbit ethernet.
 

SoyCapitanSoyCapitan

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I'm frankly astounded that Apple pre-announced the iMac Xeon seven months before availability. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect )
Apple has been very smart with that kind of thing to avoid unintended effects. They have a cornered and mostly loyal market. It means that by pre-announcing a product they can slow down conversion rates to competitor products.
 
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ActionableMango

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Apple has been very smart with that kind of thing to avoid unintended effects. They have a cornered and mostly loyal market. It means that by pre-announcing a product they can slow down conversion rates to competitor products.
Yes I have to agree. The "switchers" around here used to be newbies who were switching from Windows PC to Mac. Now all the "switching" posts are faithful Apple old timers leaving Mac for Windows PC.

Apple must feel that stemming the tide is worth the Osborne effect.

Too late for me though.