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So i remember watching a youtube video, which was basically comparing the speeds of the 8+ and the x and obviously since the x has a much higher resolution, it runs games slower specially as the games get more demanding this will be much more noticeable
and the ram management on the x is different from the 8plus; for example if you open 10 apps and try to reopen them shortly after most of them are gonna have to be reloaded on the x unlike the 8 plus (there was a youtube that proved this to be right )

so other than some cool features, OLED, and being less fragile
8+ has better on-screen performance,longer battery life, faster unlock,bigger screen real state(4.96vs5.5inch)


i know for lots of people A11 is more than enough and not many people keep their phones for 4-5years so that probably wont become an issue (although even now some games look much smoother (like 60fps vs 40fps) on the 8 plus
but still it makes me wonder...
will the x get much slower than the 8 plus when a few years pass?
theoretically it should since it has a much lower resolution
and the battery life on the x? will it degrade fast because of all those cool technolgies built into it (OLED Face ID etc)
 
Based off your thread title and the contents your post, _nothing_ is future proof, especially given it’s tech related. The iPhone 8 and iPhone X should be equally supported through iOS and its performance should be almost on par with each other in terms of where the user shouldn’t notice major differences between both devices.
 
The X has a more future proof design for sure and overall technology. The performance difference between the two is negligible in day to day use as is the RAM management since they both have 3GB.

What makes a ‘design’ future proof? I can understand performance specifications and technology somewhat, but I’m not following your design logic being future proof.
 
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He means the X will look like the 2018 and 2019 iPhones, so you won’t look outdated.

I gathered that and I don’t expect the form factor to change under one year for an iPhone that was just revamped after four years of having the same design with a 6/6s/7/8. However, in terms of design, there really isn’t anything ‘future proof’. I think when you correlate the word future proof with technology, they don’t really mix together because it Is such an ever-changing spectrum.
 
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So i remember watching a youtube video, which was basically comparing the speeds of the 8+ and the x and obviously since the x has a much higher resolution, it runs games slower specially as the games get more demanding this will be much more noticeable
and the ram management on the x is different from the 8plus; for example if you open 10 apps and try to reopen them shortly after most of them are gonna have to be reloaded on the x unlike the 8 plus (there was a youtube that proved this to be right )

so other than some cool features, OLED, and being less fragile
8+ has better on-screen performance,longer battery life, faster unlock,bigger screen real state(4.96vs5.5inch)


i know for lots of people A11 is more than enough and not many people keep their phones for 4-5years so that probably wont become an issue (although even now some games look much smoother (like 60fps vs 40fps) on the 8 plus
but still it makes me wonder...
will the x get much slower than the 8 plus when a few years pass?
theoretically it should since it has a much lower resolution
and the battery life on the x? will it degrade fast because of all those cool technolgies built into it (OLED Face ID etc)
Never believe innocently on everything in YouTube. You seem viewing iPhone X fake news. iPhone X is the foundation of future iPhone releases.
 
Never believe innocently on everything in YouTube. You seem viewing iPhone X fake news. iPhone X is the foundation of future iPhone releases.
i didnt say that the x is noy gonna be the foundation of future iphones
as far as i read it seemingly is and flagship iphones with touch ID Are not gonna be produced any more
and Nope Its not fake news i had both the x and then sold it for an 8plus
and yes Definitly i personally feel 8+ is much smoother (Smoother UI,and even in some games)
and the first thing i noticed when i bought it was the fact that the screen is small and Nope The screen real state of the x is 4.96inches and the width is exactly Same As iphone 6/7/8
and the battery life ... On the apple's specs page you can see the 8plus has A slightly better battery life

i'm not saying these famous youtubers(zone of tech lainfully honest tech everything apple pro etc)are always honest but In this case i dont think they're wrong

best wishes
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I gathered that and I don’t expect the form factor to change under one year for an iPhone that was just revamped after four years of having the same design with a 6/6s/7/8. However, in terms of design, there really isn’t anything ‘future proof’. I think when you correlate the word future proof with technology, they don’t really mix together because it Is such an ever-changing spectrum.
yes you are right
for some people Having all those "cool" feautures like animojis are Something
they want to have the new things that are announced with the face id or animojis
those things are absolutely useless to me
to me they seem like they're toys that apple is selling us, and They're not cheap toys
i definitly think Face Id made It no better
even if it improves i think touch id was Good enough ...
seriously I know everything is getting faster but touch id 2nd gen is super fast and simple to use

but for me and many other people Future proof means that your phone doesnt get sluggish when the IOS14-15+ versions Come out

thats where the Pixel count Could probably Make the X suffer
and since the 10 and The 8+ models are both expensive, i guess it's something many people would consider
im not a fan Of Switching phones every 1-2years i need them to get the job done
and for me its takingn lonng 4K videos from my classes (anatomy,Histology etc) Recording audio, using personal hotspot all the time,and of course reading lots of stuff on my phone so definitly i dont want a cool looking small LCD with Lots of power hungry Components in my phone

im not saying the x is a disaster its just a prototype to me it needs lots of work to be as refined as the plus models already are

and yes This is an opinion since I know lots of people that Just Use their phone to browse the Web And Check Instagram and snap chat
and some people love the cool new tech because Its fashionable and Its Hot

so im not trying to bash people that Want a cool looking phone

i created this thread Because it will be interesting to see where The 8+/X stand 3-4 years later, do the batteries Degrade super fast on any?
Thanks for reply ,definitely appreicate the response
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The X has a more future proof design for sure and overall technology. The performance difference between the two is negligible in day to day use as is the RAM management since they both have 3GB.
i had an x and now have the 8+
you can try for yourself
but yes Higher resolution means Opening apps will Eat up ram much faster on the x
and it also means the x will be Slower than the 8+ in almost every on-screen test
its not because the x is a crappy phone its just because its got the higher resolution
and Technology...?
Well the GPU/CPU/RAM are exactly the same(maybe the 8+ has higher usable ram? i have no idea but check this one out https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1408743)
other than That face ID is New tech... I'm not sure it makes it more future proof
hope this helps
 
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The statements on memory management I cannot agree with. Each time I played with an X it seemed to be pretty on par with my plus device.

I don’t think anybody with an X will be handing it in for an upgrade quicker than a regular plus customer.
 
I have had an 8 Plus since launch. Got an X two weeks ago and used both side by side. I think TID is a little faster than FID. But overall performance is the same between the 2 phones to be honest.
 
The X has a more future proof design for sure and overall technology. The performance difference between the two is negligible in day to day use as is the RAM management since they both have 3GB.

Agreed. While the 8 and the X are on par in terms of performance the older design of the 8 series looks outdated as do all smartphones with fat bezels and giant home buttons. The X design is coming to all new iPhones regardless of price in September. The old design will have a lot nostalgic value for some though.
 
What makes a ‘design’ future proof? I can understand performance specifications and technology somewhat, but I’m not following your design logic being future proof.
I totally agree. A design is relevant as long as it is popular. Right now the X and 8, 8 Plus are popular designs. I think aesthetics are a very subjective opinion and neither design looks dated to me at this stage in time.
 
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Meanwhile, I just use my X and totally enjoy it :)

I totally agree. A design is relevant as long as it is popular. Right now the X and 8, 8 Plus are popular designs. I think aesthetics are a very subjective opinion and neither design looks dated to me at this stage in time.

I think the OP meant that the X is in a better position to meet potential future requirements, or make use of potential future opportunities. I don't see a large Bezel phone in this years iPhone lineup (not counting SE).
 
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I think the OP meant that the X is in a better position to meet potential future requirements, or make use of potential future opportunities. I don't see a large Bezel phone in this years iPhone lineup (not counting SE).

‘Better’ has to be the most overly used word used on a tech forum. In terms of design, there is _no_such thing as future proof. In terms of actually incorporating the technology with the current iPhone X sensors/hardware, then that’s obvious with the current X design because it *has* to house the Face ID sensors and display requirements, where the iPhone 8 obviously is not suited based on its form factor and bezels. Two different things you’re conflating.
 
So i remember watching a youtube video, which was basically comparing the speeds of the 8+ and the x and obviously since the x has a much higher resolution, it runs games slower specially as the games get more demanding this will be much more noticeable

This makes no sense because iPhone X renders fewer pixels compared to iPhone 8 Plus. If anything, iPhone 8 Plus works harder because it has more points to compute.

Short answer: iPhone 8 is no more "future proof" than the X.

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The iPhone 8 Plus pushes 2,000 more pixels over the iPhone X. 2,742,336 on the 8 Plus vs 2,740,500 on the X.
 
Don't forget OLED display could get burn-in also, while the 8 Plus won't because it's an IPS display.
 
Don't forget OLED display could get burn-in also, while the 8 Plus won't because it's an IPS display.

Although True, in most cases with the OLED panel the iPhone X uses from Samsung, it’s more of a rarity than anything. LCD technology has been very reliable with the iPhone Over the years in terms of brightness and calibration, but I wouldn’t allow the OLED display concern me for any image retention.
 
This makes no sense because iPhone X renders fewer pixels compared to iPhone 8 Plus. If anything, iPhone 8 Plus works harder because it has more points to compute.

Short answer: iPhone 8 is no more "future proof" than the X.

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This makes no sense because iPhone X renders fewer pixels compared to iPhone 8 Plus. If anything, iPhone 8 Plus works harder because it has more points to compute.

Short answer: iPhone 8 is no more "future proof" than the X.

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if this is how this is processed then the high resolution would be kinda useless on the x?!
Cause its just upscales from Such a low res
sounds strange to me although im not against what you're saying...
That might be correct but in my experience the 8 plus has been a little quicker than the x ...
and the ram management thing is real but in real Life usage that's not a big deal really

for me the Screen size and aspect ratio of the x were a Problem
having a Notch and Not having Landscape mode these were important to "me" but still it felt like the x was slower at times maybe those stuff were just ios bugs...
and the battery life feels much better on the 8 plus
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Although True, in most cases with the OLED panel the iPhone X uses from Samsung, it’s more of a rarity than anything. LCD technology has been very reliable with the iPhone Over the years in terms of brightness and calibration, but I wouldn’t allow the OLED display concern me for any image retention.
we gotta wait and See but personally i use a Totally black wallpaper and lock screen on all my devices (ipads Iphones macs ipods etc...) abd burn in could be a serious issue for me Cause once this happens
to replace the screen you're phone is not gonna be water resistant anymore and generally I kinda dont Like Taking my phone in for repairs ,Even at genius bars it can take a Long time and yep Apple Charges a lot for something like a screen replacement i guess
 
Wow...some people take the definition of future proof way too literally. I think we are all adult enough to understand that nothing is full proof and that future proof only ever refers to the immediate future. Immediate future could be 2,3,4,5 years. Buying a router with 5g now is considered future proofing as it would be ready to accept a 5g signal once available.
 
if this is how this is processed then the high resolution would be kinda useless on the x?!
Cause its just upscales from Such a low res
sounds strange to me although im not against what you're saying...
That might be correct but in my experience the 8 plus has been a little quicker than the x ...
and the ram management thing is real but in real Life usage that's not a big deal really

Apple changed the definition of "pixel." With the iPhone X, a pixel is 2 sub-pixels (RG or BG). With iPhone 6/7/8 Plus, a pixel is 3 sub-pixels (RGB). This is why images are less sharp on iPhone X. The X has 739,800 fewer sub-pixels.

Apple doesn't market the Super Retina display on iPhone X as having more pixels. They say it's great because of HDR and contrast ratio.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208191
 
So i remember watching a youtube video, which was basically comparing the speeds of the 8+ and the x and obviously since the x has a much higher resolution, it runs games slower specially as the games get more demanding this will be much more noticeable
and the ram management on the x is different from the 8plus; for example if you open 10 apps and try to reopen them shortly after most of them are gonna have to be reloaded on the x unlike the 8 plus (there was a youtube that proved this to be right )

so other than some cool features, OLED, and being less fragile
8+ has better on-screen performance,longer battery life, faster unlock,bigger screen real state(4.96vs5.5inch)


i know for lots of people A11 is more than enough and not many people keep their phones for 4-5years so that probably wont become an issue (although even now some games look much smoother (like 60fps vs 40fps) on the 8 plus
but still it makes me wonder...
will the x get much slower than the 8 plus when a few years pass?
theoretically it should since it has a much lower resolution
and the battery life on the x? will it degrade fast because of all those cool technolgies built into it (OLED Face ID etc)

This post sounds like someone trying really hard to justify purchasing the 8 instead of the X.

There's no shame in getting either device! If you think the 8 is the one you want, go for it.

I got the X the day it came out, and I haven't looked back. I love the device. The OLED display is amazing, FaceID is so integrated into everything and provides a more seamless authentication experience through apps/purchases/keychainaccess/etc than TouchID did, and the 'full' screen display are killer IMO.

I don't sit around opening a ton of apps, close them, re-open them, etc. I use the device every hour of every day, have no problems with performance, and just love it. (Cannot wait for the Plus version in September!).

So, get what you want; you'll likely be happy whichever way you go. Just don't worry about fiddly things like which one has which kind of RAM management (especially since, well, they're running the same software).
 
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