I the that the phone is smart, but dont think its a smartphone. Idk why, i guess just by looking at smartphones, the iPhone doesnt really fit in there. Its just different. lol
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Is the iPhone a smartphone?
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as the varied responses in this thread make clear, there's no answer to this question because there's no generally accepted definition for a smartphone. But in my humble opinion, the answer is "yes," quite clearly.
With this new information, it puts the "Palm Pre vs iPhone" discussions to rest; the Palm Pre is not a smart phone because it can only run web apps and not native apps.
By the way, the lobster is escaping the hatch... you better close the door.
This discussion comes up from time to time and it always goes back to the aliens.
I think Apple had always planned on an SDK to create native apps, they just weren't ready for it on the initial launch.
yes...thats correct. your reading skills are unmatched....
Apple stated this to developers at WWDC o8. Let me get a signed report for you, hold on......
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so, my question is this....do either of you have a good reason to doubt my comment? Im quite simply asking because it seems like the modus operandi around here is to argue/disagree first, then get proven wrong shortly after.
I was at wwdc and heard this with my own ears...im sorry if i am not a good enough source for you.
Jeez, people make this so complicated.
In my book it's a smartphone if it can:
Send/Receive e-Mail
Display Web pages
Make phone calls (with an address book)
Keep a calendar
That's IT.
Tethering? MMS? Flash? Native apps? GPS?
Get real. That's like saying a 1999 laptop isn't a laptop anymroe because it's not as good as a 2009 laptop. Just because there are other laptops that are better doesn't mean it's not a laptop!
And just because there are smarphones that do things the iPhone doesn't do doesn't mean the iPhone isn't a smartphone.
In my book it's a smartphone if it can:
Send/Receive e-Mail
Display Web pages
Make phone calls (with an address book)
Keep a calendar
That's IT.
Tethering? MMS? Flash? Native apps? GPS?
Get real. That's like saying a 1999 laptop isn't a laptop anymroe because it's not as good as a 2009 laptop. Just because there are other laptops that are better doesn't mean it's not a laptop!
And just because there are smarphones that do things the iPhone doesn't do doesn't mean the iPhone isn't a smartphone.
Good luck with that.
I'm looking forward to being proved wrong. Somehow, I doubt I will be.
Okay. But this is the internet where it very easy to claim you saw / heard something. In order to lift the doubt that some might have, it's always a good idea to properly source your claim so that it appears to have validity. For example, "I was at WWDC and heard this with my own ears" is really quite vague. Who told you? What exactly did they say? Where and when did they state this? You know, journalistic basics.
The Sony Ericsson K700i could do all of these, and was very much a feature phone. I believe that all SE phones since can too.
I would say that a smartphone would allow the user access to a file system on the phone. It would allow the user to receive a file via email and then open that file in a program that the user had installed for the purpose of working with that file. For example, receive a Word document in an email from a colleague, open it in a third-party editor on the iPhone to make some changes and then email it back.
Sure, there's the Quickoffice solution for the above scenrio, but it has to provide its own email program to address the problem of not being able to open the file from the Mail app.
I won't really regard the iPhone as a proper smartphone until Apple do something about the whole 'sandboxing' nature of the iPhone. Other than that though, it's come on a long way from how it started out, and with each new firmware seems to get a little closer.
this is a freaking mac rumors site...why the hell would i go out of my way to get all that detail for you.
when i made the comment..i assumed i was just making a comment and it woudl be done..like that...finished.
i have no desire to prove you wrong, or prove to you that I did hear this. What exactly would that benefit me? I know what i heard...i was just offering a comment to the forum..now i have to PROVE that i really heard that...
not to mention that its the most trivial thing of all...what exactly changes if my comment is true or false..anything? seems like the proof that you deem necessary for this claim would imply that it has some actual effect on your life..explain that to me..
its comical..this forum, the users...even the "demi-gods" (are you guys serious with those handles...i mean, come on!)
this site should be "macarguments.com" as ive said many times before.
im going to get back to beating dead horses instead of trying to offer any insight into anything.
when i made the comment..i assumed i was just making a comment and it woudl be done..like that...finished.
i have no desire to prove you wrong, or prove to you that I did hear this. What exactly would that benefit me? I know what i heard...i was just offering a comment to the forum..now i have to PROVE that i really heard that...
not to mention that its the most trivial thing of all...what exactly changes if my comment is true or false..anything? seems like the proof that you deem necessary for this claim would imply that it has some actual effect on your life..explain that to me..
its comical..this forum, the users...even the "demi-gods" (are you guys serious with those handles...i mean, come on!)
this site should be "macarguments.com" as ive said many times before.
im going to get back to beating dead horses instead of trying to offer any insight into anything.
I always felt that a "Smartphone" was a phone that had a lot of function, but was fully closed source, in house only type of phone.. Meaning you couldn't install apps of your choice and install them yourself basically. Anything this and more I would just consider a fully functional phone with 3rd party options like a WinMo phone, WebOS, Android and Cocoa/Leopard based iPhone.
This is exactly hat I'm talking about, some people keep changing their definition of what a smartphone is regards to the iphone, now it's not a smartphone because it doesn't allow access to a file system. See how desperate some have gotten. I guess iphone is not a smartphone because it doesn't have 3rd party multitasking, doesn't have flash in it's browser, what else is next? I remember people use to say its not a smartphone because it doesn't have turn by turn apps.
The Razr is a smartphone according to one of the definitions?
Let's see, the 3GS has the following to name a few:
If that doesn't classify it as "smart", then I don't know what the heck else people are expecting that would suddenly make it smart.
Don't want to call it a smart phone, fine. I'll call it a mobile computer.
- Phone with visual voicemail
- iPod with Music, Videos, Poscasts, Audiobooks, etc...
- Possibly one of the most advanced web browsers (flash is crap, so spare me)
- Typical email support plus Exchange support
- Decent camera + video recording & basic editing + uploads to MobileMe and YouTube
- Maps + GPS
- SMS, MMS, Tethering (talking about the phone here, not the network)
- Cut, Copy, Paste
- Voice recording
- An unmatched 3rd party app store
- Wireless iTunes
- Nike +
- etc.....
If that doesn't classify it as "smart", then I don't know what the heck else people are expecting that would suddenly make it smart.
Don't want to call it a smart phone, fine. I'll call it a mobile computer.
Mms is in your definition of a smart phone?
I agree with this:
To me it's simply the best phone I've ever owned.
It's a smartphone, the smartest personal phone anyway. I just don't think the business aspect is there yet. One day, but not now.
