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Sdahe

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Hello,

I have a friend that says I can record a small video under water with my iPhone Xs but Im not sure if that is true. Can anyone here confirm that to me.. is it ok to sumerge the phone under water?..
 
I believe it's Water Resistant, which is rated at IP67 (if it's 7/8/X) IP68 (if it's XS/XS Max/XR). Meaning that it can be submerged in water up to 2 meter and up to 30 minutes. However, do understand that if somehow water gets inside and damages the phone, it is not covered under warranty. Unless you have AppleCare Plus then you'll have to use 1 of the 2 incidents.
 
I believe it's Water Resistant, which is rated at IP68. Meaning that it can be submerged in water up to 2 meter and up to 30 minutes. However, do understand that if somehow water gets inside and damages the phone, it is not covered under warranty. Unless you have AppleCare Plus then you'll have to use 1 of the 2 incidents.
So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..
 
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Yes, you can record a small video under water, but as Shadowbech says, it is I’ll advised. You’d better get a case for your iPhone instead of risking damaging a $2000 device.
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So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..
No manufacturers warrant water damage. Zero. Strange as it sound, Apple won’t repair a device that has water damage for free.
 
So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..
With the rating of IP68, it will have a rubber gasket sealed around the case to prevent any dust and/or water to go inside. Those gasket can fail and also weaken overtime, and if so, water will get inside and damage the components, which then isn't covered under warranty. This is also true for other smartphones as well that has water rating IP68. as above mentioned, I wouldn't chance taking my phone under water at all. If I planned on it, then I would probably get waterproof case.
 
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I had the iPhone XS Max on launch day, but then switched to the XS because i just couldn't get used to the size of the Max. I used the Max while i was in Mexico underwater at the beach and the pool with no issues whatsoever. And after switching to the XS, I've also used that in the pool/beach with no problems. I've taken underwater photos of myself, friends, sea turtles, and fish!
 
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I had the iPhone XS Max on launch day, but then switched to the XS because i just couldn't get used to the size of the Max. I used the Max while i was in Mexico underwater at the beach and the pool with no issues whatsoever. And after switching to the XS, I've also used that in the pool/beach with no problems. I've taken underwater photos of myself, friends, sea turtles, and fish!
I guess I should be ok with my Xs. It just went underwater for less than 2 feet and less than 5 seconds
 
So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..
Samsung has the same warranty on its galaxy line of phones. Ip68 rated but not covered for water damage.
 
The water resistance rating is intended to protect against accidental water exposure (i.e. getting caught out in the rain or dropping your phone in the sink), it's not waterproof with the intention of it being used as an underwater camera or for texting in the shower... The Apple Watch (Series 2 and later) on the other hand has a much higher water resistance and can be worn swimming & etc.
 
So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..
I would imagine (using logic ... which admittedly isn't what the law is always based on) that if water got into the phone because of a manufacturing defect, that apple would cover it. For instance, the gasket was bad and had a hole in it and water got in because of that, I'd say Apple would/should cover it.

However, let's say the user cracks the screen and then drops it in a sink. Subsequently the phone craps out. I'd say that Apple would not warrant that as the water damage happened because of the cracked screen.
 
Well common sense dictates that it's only water resistant. It's not entirely sealed off. The Lightning port, Speaker holes, Sim Card slot, Power button, volume rockers and silent/vibrate switch are all potential entry points for liquid.
 
Warranties are always a matter of "you get what you pay for." They're built into the price of the product. A basic warranty that did cover liquid damage would cost more, since there'd be way more warranty claims if liquid damage was covered, and electrical equipment that has been exposed to liquids almost always needs to be replaced, not just have parts repaired. The cost of warranty is built into the price of a product, so better coverage = higher price.

While I'm sure some people would be happy to pay extra for a phone that came with, say, a two-year warranty that included water resistance, the headlines in the press would be "Apple (or Samsung) Jacks Up Price of New Models," and the many people who have a hard time paying for phones at the current prices would definitely be upset.

Liquid damage claims might also lead to disputes between customer and business. For example, IP68 - did the owner take it swimming for more than 30 minutes, and take it deeper than 2 meters? A snorkeling trip on a cruise ship excursion could easily exceed that standard.
 
Water-resistance wasn't added for you to swim with your phone but more to prevent water damage from genuine accidents.
 
Well common sense dictates that it's only water resistant. It's not entirely sealed off. The Lightning port, Speaker holes, Sim Card slot, Power button, volume rockers and silent/vibrate switch are all potential entry points for liquid.
Apple's website says - iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max have a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 2 meters up to 30 minutes). This means that the Lightning port, Speaker holes, Sim Card slot, Power button, volume rockers and silent/vibrate switch are not potential entry points for liquid
 
Apple's website says - iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max have a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 2 meters up to 30 minutes). This means that the Lightning port, Speaker holes, Sim Card slot, Power button, volume rockers and silent/vibrate switch are not potential entry points for liquid

That doesn't clearly define how those parts aren't potential entry points for liquid. Then how do they determine the time limit with which it can be submerged? If all those spots aren't entry points then what makes it only last 30 min? Where's the water entering potentially? Otherwise that doesn't make much sense? And at 2 meters. That means past 2 meters the water pressure is enough to start seeping into those spots? And given enough time water will start to seep in from those spots?
 
So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..

No cell phone company (even major ones like Samsung) will warranty a water damaged phone, regardless of its water resistance rating.
 
So Apple makes a water resistant phone and if it gets wet inside they won't cover it?.. that's kind of strange since they are the ones that say the phone can be submerged underwater..

I’ve mentioned this many times before, water resistance is merely a rating, not a guarantee that your device will survive. It basically shows what the device is capable of withstanding, but it doesn’t guarantee the device withstand water intrusion altogether.
 
The term waterproof is a layman's term. Its not what companies use, because they want to limit their liability.

Perfect example is a Rolex Deep Sea Dweller. One of the most "waterproof" watches in the world, a legit device watch, accompanied James Cameron and his submersibles down to the depths, even has a helium escape valve. You can imagine that if that watch is not called "waterproof," nothing should be.

Everything basically has a water resistance rating. The iPhone XS can technically do 2 m for half an hour. Its rated for that, so it shouldn't have any trouble being submerged. Most people on this forum though, are of the opinion that they don't want to put that to the test. That part is up to you. Can you trust a computer and phone company's mass-produced product for water resistance?

I've even used an iPhone 7 in a salt water pool, and wash my XS Max regularly, so I don't care too much. But ultimately your call.

Hello,

I have a friend that says I can record a small video under water with my iPhone Xs but Im not sure if that is true. Can anyone here confirm that to me.. is it ok to sumerge the phone under water?..
 
I’ve mentioned this many times before, water resistance is merely a rating, not a guarantee that your device will survive. It basically shows what the device is capable of withstanding, but it doesn’t guarantee the device withstand water intrusion altogether.
As I’ve said previously, water resistance benefits the consumer, not the manufacturer. Saves time and money for the consumer if their phone doesn’t get water damage. Still an ounce of prevention, as the saying goes.
 
While the iPhone has an IP rating, if you submerge it to any shallower depth (even 1 inch) and it leaks, water damage isn't covered under warranty.

So the IP rating isn't any guarantee your phone won't leak (even in 1 inch of water) but its a specification that it SHOULDNT leak at a certain depth.
 
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