Is the Jailbreaking community dying?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by hasanahmad, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. hasanahmad macrumors 65816

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    At one point it was thriving. People used to wait for jailbreaks for days as soon as they updated their OS. now it seems there is no word about jailbreak here or social media or if there is its so small its ignored. What happened? was it that Apple brought things into iOS that made jailbreaks useless or was it just harder to do
     
  2. QueenTyrone macrumors 6502a

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    Harder to do and they're worth hundreds of thousands sometimes.
     
  3. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Another thread on the 'death' of jailbreaking? Fine…

    Here's my opinion.

    1. A lot of people only jailbroke to get tethering or some specific tweak. Apple or their carrier has now solved that issue.
    2. Those who jailbroke to theme got bored and moved on.
    3. Semi-untethered jailbreaks and the instability they caused frustrated people and they moved on.
    4. Some jailbreakers were willing to settle for what Apple gave them.

    I fall into none of those categories above.

    Two years on my 9.0.2 fully untethered jailbreak and counting and my device is as I like it.
     
  4. hasanahmad thread starter macrumors 65816

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    You eventually have to upgrade your phone
     
  5. erayser macrumors 65816

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    I'm a theme modder, and beta tester for devs who create tools and utilities for iOS themers. I know most of the modders I talk to... and work with... are NOT bored at all. Honestly, we prefer to theme mod on iOS over using launchers, and visual type UI's to customize our screens. It was a lot easier to theme icons on a jailbroken iPhone... rather than side load through an apk. Sharing to the community was easy and fun in the jailbreak community, because we all contributed shared source. Theme creators who crossed over to Android have to put more hours into creating the KLWP and KWGT widgets... so they frown on people who modify their stuff and share. This wasn't how it was in the hay day of theming on a JB iPhone.

    The other issues is people losing their jailbreak. We really don't know when a jailbreak will come, and if we are on the right version. The waiting game has been really frustrating. People who are already jailbroken, hang on to their old version of iOS in fear of not being able to jailbreak their phone again. Coccco28... one of more popular theme creators would love to update and create more iOS themes... but he doesn't have a jailbroken iPhone... he has been waiting a long time for a jailbreak... along with many. I know a lot of themers in that position.

    The Semi-untethered jailbreak is just a real bummer... when re-springing doesn't show our changes, we sometimes have to reboot to see the change. Having to do an extra step to get the JB back gets old fast... and sometimes does not work on the first try. I sometimes hold my breath after rebooting... thinking I may lose my jailbreak. Not sure if we will ever see another untethered JB again.

    It's hard to swallow going back to stock iOS when all my iPhones are 95% of the time Jailbroken since the 3g iPhone. I've been a fan of the iPhone since the original release 2g iPhone... it's sitting on my desk right now. I won't close the door on the iPhone, but not seeing JB releases like it used to be makes me very hesitant to upgrade to the new iPhones.

    I don't think Jailbreaking is dead... but the community isn't like it used to be.
     
  6. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Yes. This time around it will be the Huawei P10 Plus, which is Android. Some time early 2018.
     
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    Wow...that's the best you can say?!

    Why are you here?
     
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    I always wait for the jailbreak to be released before I upgrade my phone.

    But I missed the iOS 10 JB window due to having no PC. So I've been stuck on iOS 9.3.3 for two years.

    I've always been horrified by the thought of stock iOS because I've never used it but this time around I'm going to get the 8 as soon as the local Apple Store has stock and give stock iOS a go.

    Mostly because jail breaks seem few and far between these days so I figure may as well get used to it eventually.
     
  11. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    It keeps coming back doesn't it?
     
  12. Knowlege Bomb macrumors 603

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    Sadly, I think the answer is yes and the Public Beta Program is it’s replacement. Meaning it’s the only way those of us who give a s*** are able to get features not available to the general public. We also get the instability that could at times be associated with a jailbreak.
     
  13. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    I still don't think it's dead, yet.

    But in any case it's now moved into irrelevancy for me except with my older devices.

    My next phone will be Android and my 6s+ will either move down or be given to my son as stock.

    In any case, I still have a 4s on 6.1.3 to play around with and my iPad Air 2 on 8.1.

    I find it interesting because it's only just recently that Android has managed to gain my attention, at a point where Apple has been rapidly losing it.
     
  14. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    What draws you to Android?
     
  15. Knowlege Bomb macrumors 603

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    Their hardware continues to draw me in and the software is at a point where it’s tolerable. I honestly loved my Pixel and the only reason I didn’t keep it was I had a perfectly good iPhone 7 paid for and I feel like I would actually miss iMessage, not to mention all of the paid apps I’ve accumulated over the years on iOS.

    The justifications for sticking with iOS are dropping away at a steady clip.
     
  16. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    I have had an android for the last 2 years, the eco-system is pretty 'teenage' in my opinion, apps are less sophisticated, many updates of apps (daily) and of course lagging in updated Android software for the many different phones.
    Hardware spec look better on Android but in actual use iOS still beats it by a long margin due to better optimization and better apps.

    I need dual sim for work, that is the only reason I have an Android.
    It is doable but I am not there by choice.
     
  17. Will22 macrumors 65816

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    Must be me but I have yet to find an app that is better on my 7/7+ than it is on my S8+

    Granted I don't tend to have loads of apps but even things like copy paste is laughable on iOS.

    Multi tasking, well it's on my S8+ and not on the iPhones. Simple little things like selecting a track over bluetooth rather than having to go into the phone or use the useless siri.
     
  18. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    Well for one thing in iOS you can actually 'scroll' to put the cursor on the right place when using to select something to copy, on Android that is hardly possible, it usually selects the whole and wrong portion, so multiple tries are necessary.

    In my opinion iOS is a more mature approach and has a more professional feel.
    But that of course is subjective.

    I any case I miss my iPhone and definitely miss an untethered JBen iPhone.
     
  19. Fille84 macrumors regular

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    You can scroll by holding down space on gboard.
     
  20. JackieInCo Suspended

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    You haven't tried it recently have you? That process has gotten so much easier.
     
  21. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    mmm Both quotes indicate that this is indeed a problem, so I have to download a new keyboard to get something to work which has worked on stock iOS for years... you are making my point :)
     
  22. JackieInCo Suspended

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    Again, you haven't tried Android OS lately.
     
  23. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    Actually holding my phone right now which is on Marshmallow.

    That is another point, 27% of Android devices is on 3 year old OS, 32% on 2 year old, 13% on 1 year old and only 0,2% on the latest OS, which is 3 months old.

    Compare that to 25% in 1 week for iOS 11....

    Android phones might have better hardware specs, but with a generally 'ancient' OS you only benefit partially from it.
     
  24. JackieInCo Suspended

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    My S8+ is on 7.0 and my Note 8 is on 7.1.1. Those are the latest releases for this devices.

    I updated my 6 month old iPad Pro to iOS 11, played with it for five minutes and then put it back in the drawer where it's been the past two months. iOS is just more of the same. Honestly, I just can't take it anymore. The last straw was several months ago, Apple started banning any adblocking app that used VPNs. These apps block ads in apps. I'm still using AdGuardd Pro on my SE because I refuse to let Apple dictate what I can and can't have on my phone. I don't have to worry about that with Android. I can side load Adguard Pro and be done with it. Google or Samsung will never tell me what I can have on my phone like the great dictator, Apple. I wanted to buy the iPhone 8+ but again, I can't be bothered when Apple wants to control what I can and can't do with my $1000 phone.
     
  25. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    Exactly my point, the newest for your 6 month old flagship device, the newest OS is Android 8.0 Oreo which was released in August.

    My A5 is still on 6.1 because of rooting and xposed availability, even stock Android gives many restrictions, maybe less than on iOS but still enough to hold me at older firmware, the newest I can get is 7.0 which is a year old and it is very doubtful 8.0 will be available for it anyway.
     

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