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rbmanian75

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Hey everyone,

I was just playing around with the BTO (Build-To-Order) configurations for the new 14-inch and 16-inch M5 MacBook Pros, and I noticed something that feels like a classic Apple "gotcha" moment.

To jump from the M5 Pro (20-core GPU) to the base M5 Max (40-core GPU), you’re looking at a $1100 premium.

Now, before the "it's for pros" crowd jumps in—yes, I know the M5 Max also doubles the memory bandwidth to 614GB/s and bumps the base RAM to 36GB. But $1100 for an extra 20 GPU cores? That’s $55 per core.


The Math of the M5 Generation:

  • M5 Pro: 18-Core CPU / 20-Core GPU (307GB/s Bandwidth)
  • M5 Max: 18-Core CPU / 40-Core GPU (614GB/s Bandwidth)
  • The Cost: $900 difference (and that's before adding more SSD space).
With the new Fusion Architecture and the Neural Accelerator baked into every single GPU core this year, the M5 Max is undeniably a beast for AI and 8K workflows. But for those of us doing heavy creative work that isn't LLM-based, is that extra headroom worth nearly a thousand bucks?

For context, you could almost buy a base M5 MacBook Air for the price of this GPU upgrade alone.

A few questions for the forum:
  1. Are you seeing enough of a real-world lift in Metal/Ray Tracing performance to justify the $1100?
  2. Is the 2TB starting storage on the Max (which Apple baked into the price) actually a "value" or just a way to force a higher entry price?
  3. Are any of you sticking with the 20-core Pro and just "living with" the slower export times?
Curious to hear if I’m the only one feeling the sting of the "Max" tax this year.

I am stuck at deciding between M5 Pro 64GB vs M5 Max 64GB
 
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Are you looking at educational pricing? A 14” Pro 18/20/24GB/2TB costs $2,799. Upgrading to the 18/32 Max is $800 ($3,599) and going to 18/40 is an $1,100 up charge ($4,099).
 
Are you looking at educational pricing? A 14” Pro 18/20/24GB/2TB costs $2,799. Upgrading to the 18/32 Max is $800 ($3,599) and going to 18/40 is an $1,100 up charge ($4,099).
Yes you are right ie 1100. i will correct the post.
 
As for your initial question, other than increased memory bandwidth, more GPU cores, 2 ProRes encode/decode engines and 2 video encode engines, I don’t see any difference between the Pro and Max chips.

Mine won’t be here for a few more weeks so I can’t offer real world answers to your questions, though I don’t feel any of Apple’s storage offerings are a value. That being said, 2TB for me is a minimum for a new machine. I have ~30GB free on the 1TB SSD in my current machine. I have external drives/SSDs and such, but there is a ground floor of what I want stored in my actual machine.
 
Just curious did you order m5 max with 40 core GPU? How much RAM? What is your use case?
Yes I got the 18/40 chip because that’s the only option available with 128GB RAM.

Currently my most “pro” task is recording my band’s live performances. Basically multi-track recording, EQ, noise gates etc., plus chopping into individual songs and exporting.

I have been bitten by the AI bug though after using it to help me with SQL and some other stuff at work.

I’m going to run a local programming model and connect it to Xcode to try and update some of my old programs I wrote back in the Objective-C days. My plan is to update the Obj-C to Swift while also working new functionality into it.

I also want to mess around with programmatic 3D but I couldn’t perform matrix multiplication if my life depended on it so I’ll see if the AI can help me with this.

This is my hobby. I don’t expect to make money or anything; but if I can make something enjoyable for me, I’ll be a happy guy.
 
But for those of us doing heavy creative work that isn't LLM-based, is that extra headroom worth nearly a thousand bucks?
Find someone who has benchmarked your specific use cases and check to see the differences. If you can't find any, buy each, do the benchmarking yourself, and return the one you're less satisfied with.
 
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