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The one area where it is not neutral is the pricing aspect in that one may have to pay for something they do not want IMO. The touchbar is neat. I prefer the physical function keys as I use them quite a bit and I do not look at them while using them. If the touchbar were to get its own feedback engine that could differentiate between different 'keys', I'd buy a touchbar model the day it comes out, as I think this would make the design far more useful.

In reality though I don't think the removal of the TB would change the cost or anything. It's a first generation device and Apple have always been fairly consistent on pricing. If anything taking inflation into account they're actually cheaper now than they used to be.

Roughly 2008 Pro $2499 - $2,840.59 today. 2012 Pro $2799 - $2,983.56 today. And of course 2017 Pro $2799 today.

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I think what's more likely is the removal of the TB would make it exactly the same price... So it's more of a bonus.
 
Maybe an acceptable compromise would be to have a row of physical keys each with its own programmable OLED display, like the Optimus Maximus keyboard:

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Maybe an acceptable compromise would be to have a row of physical keys each with its own programmable OLED display, like the Optimus Maximus keyboard:

Top-10-most-expensive-PC-keyboards-in-the-world.jpg

It's worth noting that Apple have a patent on that: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...87".PGNR.&OS=DN/20080001787&RS=DN/20080001787 from 2007...

"Methods and apparatus, including computer program products, implementing and using techniques for providing a computer peripheral including one or more keys. Each key has several light emitting diodes disposed on a face of the key. Each of the light emitting diodes can switch on or off in response to a data signal received from an application specific integrated circuit dedicated to the key. A corresponding key and manufacturing method, as well as a computer system including one or more such keys are also described."

We'll likely see it one day for sure! (Of course they have patents on anything and everything though) I think once they've got the tech down to a reliable level, and small enough as to not protrude as much. Then there's no reason why they couldn't do it, but I think we're still a few years away. Next iteration is possible, but after that more likely.
 
Hi guys, I'm in the market for a new MacBook Pro. Was on the Apple Store before and noticed quite a price difference to get the touch pad

Pricing starts at 1299, but if I want the Touch features it's 1799, is it worth the $500?

Thanks!

I've had the Touch Bar since November when it first came out. I can say I barely use it.....
 
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I'm wondering about this too...

In my situation, I would rather not have the touchbar. Having the physical escape key is very useful for me, but using the touchbar esc key is not necessarily a deal breaker (just a preference). I don't really care one way or the other about touchID.

I honestly just want the 13" nTB with 4 USB-c ports but of course that doesn't exist. It is cheaper, by almost all accounts has better battery life, similar performance, and a physical escape key. But those 2 USB-c ports are really getting to me.

I currently use my macbook air hooked up to desktop setup that includes dual monitors, multiple usb drives (through a hub) and also sometimes a wired keyboard. I have no issues with dongles as long as they are reliable (using plenty on my macbook air), but I'm a little hesitant to pay $200+ for one of these docks that may or may not work correctly after some future OS upgrade years down the line. I've tried to plan out how to recreate my current set up with the 13" nTB MBP and while it is technically possible, it seems a lot less convenient than just having those extra 2 usb-c ports.

TL;DR. Is it worth it to get the 13" TB MBP JUST for those 2 extra usb-c ports (literally nothing else). I would be using this for web development and maybe some app development in the future.

Anyone using the 13" nTB 2016/2017 with dual monitors?
 
In my situation, I would rather not have the touchbar. Having the physicalI honestly just want the 13" nTB with 4 USB-c ports but of course that doesn't exist. It is cheaper, by almost all accounts has better battery life, similar performance, and a physical escape key. But those 2 USB-c ports are really getting to me.

Check this out: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyperdrive-thunderbolt-3-usb-c-hub-for-macbook-pro#/

Might be the best solution for you. You’d still be able to use the two USB C ports but at least you’d have a couple regular USBs available too.
 
Maybe an acceptable compromise would be to have a row of physical keys each with its own programmable OLED display, like the Optimus Maximus keyboard:

Top-10-most-expensive-PC-keyboards-in-the-world.jpg

And charge additional $1000 for it. Yeahh...I'm not ready for the world to implode. We have anough complaining as it is.
 
Hey I want to buy a MacBook Pro 13 inch. Im a high school student and I can't decide if I should get the one with the touch bar not only because of the touch bar but for the enhanced specs. So will a high school student like me really notice or need the enhanced specs and the touch bar?
 
Hey I want to buy a MacBook Pro 13 inch. Im a high school student and I can't decide if I should get the one with the touch bar not only because of the touch bar but for the enhanced specs. So will a high school student like me really notice or need the enhanced specs and the touch bar?
Get the cheapest Windows 10 notebook you can find. High school student: typing in Google Docs, Gmail, Skype, Facebook, Spotify.
 
Hey I want to buy a MacBook Pro 13 inch. Im a high school student and I can't decide if I should get the one with the touch bar not only because of the touch bar but for the enhanced specs. So will a high school student like me really notice or need the enhanced specs and the touch bar?

Get a cheapo refurbed Dell for $400.
 
"So will a high school student like me really notice or need the enhanced specs and the touch bar?"

My guess is, "probably not".
But if you (or your parents) can afford it, get what you want... ;)
 
That $500 difference isn't just from the Touch Bar, you're also paying for a faster processor, slightly better integrated graphics, 2 more TB ports, and a larger SSD.

Don't forget the most important, new upgrade of all...TouchID sensor.
 
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