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iBrooker

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Will there be much difference?
 

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TimothyB

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I’m considering the same thing. Is it worth it or not noticeable.

For me, I’ll be doing graphic design and 3D modeling. From ZBrush, Modo, to Substance Painter. Every little bit helps.

I’m considering two options:
Upgrade CPU
Or upgrade to the 2TB storage (instead of 1TB) -

Question is, I hear the 2TB is faster than the 1TB, is that still true and maybe more noticeable than the cpu upgrade for certain tasks.
 

iBrooker

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I’m considering the same thing. Is it worth it or not noticeable.

For me, I’ll be doing graphic design and 3D modeling. From ZBrush, Modo, to Substance Painter. Every little bit helps.

I’m considering two options:
Upgrade CPU
Or upgrade to the 2TB storage (instead of 1TB) -

Question is, I hear the 2TB is faster than the 1TB, is that still true and maybe more noticeable than the cpu upgrade for certain tasks.

USB-C is so fast that I would rather just get external drives for extra storage - and use onboard for important stuff/apps etc

Not heard 2TB being faster ??
 

TimothyB

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USB-C is so fast that I would rather just get external drives for extra storage - and use onboard for important stuff/apps etc

Not heard 2TB being faster ??

After some Googling, seems in the past the larger storage have been faster, but nothing mind blowing, just a small percent.

I have thoughts on external , but don’t want to derail the thread from the focus on the CPU.
 
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smbu2000

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I don't think it's worth the money. the frequency differences are too small.
Both CPUs will be heat-constrained anyways - the sustained performance gap is likely to be really small.
Well the 16" model is supposed to have better cooling, so there may be more of a difference compared to how these same CPUs performed in the 2019 15" MBP.

Still most likely not worth the money and upgrading something else would most likely be more useful.
 
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iBrooker

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Still most likely not worth the money and upgrading something else would most likely be more useful.

I will be upgrading the graphics memory and system memory to 32GB and sticking to 1TB HD... any other suggestions as to what would be a better upgrade?
 

leman

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It’s a waste of money. You won’t see the higher boost in practice.
 

Plutonius

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I would wait until people start publishing their field benchmarks.

I can't imagine that Apple was able to greatly improve heat dissipation so heating will probably still be an issue.
 
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Whackman

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I don't think it's worth the money. the frequency differences are too small.
Both CPUs will be heat-constrained anyways - the sustained performance gap is likely to be really small.
So the easiest way to save money is to keep the 2.3 GHz cpu in stead of the 2.4?
 

Sirmausalot

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If you export/convert lengthy film projects, probably worth it (it was to me). Otherwise likely no. The GPU upgrade is a no-brainer though.
 
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jerryk

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I think the biggest thing is with the new cooling system you may actually get to use the performance of these high performance chips. Dave Lee (Dave2D) mentions this in his 1st look. And hopefully we will not see him have to shove a 16" MBP in the freezer to get performance like he did the 2018 15".

 

leman

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I think the biggest thing is with the new cooling system you may actually get to use the performance of these high performance chips. Dave Lee (Dave2D) mentions this in his 1st look. And hopefully we will not see him have to shove a 16" MBP in the freezer to get performance like he did the 2018 15".

No you won't. To get "full" performance potential of these CPUs you'd need over 100W of sustained thermal dissipation. It just won't happen with a thin and light chassis. You'd see few % increase here and there, but that's about it.
 

poorcody

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I can't imagine that Apple was able to greatly improve heat dissipation so heating will probably still be an issue.
One of the early adaptor videos (I think it was from The Verge) mentioned Apple said they could get 15W more power out of the processor with the new heat design. If true, that is a pretty impressive improvement. Looking forward to see testing in the real-world...

EDIT: AppleInsider is reporting 12 Watts improved heat-management...
 
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Queen6

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Few percent if anything, nothing overwhelming. If needed you'd already know, save your $$$. Smart money is on waiting for the reputable reviews before you make a decision.

Also worth noting a delay also allows Apple's providers to settle the manufacturing process, of which there are always issues initially.

Q-6
 
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ilikewhey

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After some Googling, seems in the past the larger storage have been faster, but nothing mind blowing, just a small percent.

I have thoughts on external , but don’t want to derail the thread from the focus on the CPU.
depends on the storage, if its 128 to 256, write performance usually doubles, after 512gb the difference gets alot smaller.
 
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pshufd

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depends on the storage, if its 128 to 256, write performance usually doubles, after 512gb the difference gets alot smaller.

It would be interesting to see if they are using multiple M2s instead of just one as many of the other Workstation Class Windows laptops are doing today.
 
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