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You're going to see a lot of "Apple chat rep told me it's locked" or "Apple store says they'll be locked" ... remember it's the activation profile that tells the phone's lock state. So when you buy it, if you buy it at a discount, it's locked to ATT through a provisioning profile. If you buy it without a contract, there's no lock. It's been that way for several years now.

I remember when I bought a T-Mobile (unlocked, lol) at full price last year, I told them I was using it for AT&T and the guy in the store said no it's locked to T-Mobile. I explained to him that I'd bet him lunch that when he rang it up at full price and I put my sim in, it's going to say "Congratulations your Phone Has Been Unlocked" ... he took the bet. I turned out right. I didn't make him buy me lunch, but we got a good laugh out of it, probably less funny for him tho.
 
Has someone asked apple and knows for sure if the "T-mobile contract free" version of the iPhone 6 is unlocked? I'm coming to the US and I would like to pre-order it and have it sent to the place I will be staying at (so obviously I will need it to be unlocked for outside the US - not AT&T network)

Thanks for the information.
 
Will T-Mobile iPhone 6 Plus Ship Unlocked?

Hello,
I have an AT&T Business account (saves a lot of money) and I can't seem to figure out how to pre-order the iPhone 6. From Apple's site, it says business accounts are not supported, but from AT&T's site, there is no way to pre-order from a business account. Since I am on the Next plan, where you have a 0-month contract but you pay full retail price for the phone, it's the same cost as getting the T-Mobile phone. I checked and it is the same model number as the AT&T phone, but if I got that and it came and I put my AT&T SIM card in it, would it work? I can't find any other way to order one.

Moreover, is there a way to pre-order the iPhone 6 from AT&T with a business account? Has anyone done this?

Thanks.
 
So if I buy the T-mobile no contract iphone 6 from Apple directly, I can just pop in a Verizon nano sim and "everything" will work? No missing bands, or CDMA/LTE (Yes I am just vomiting words I don't fully understand). :D

An unlocked tmobile phone purchased from apple only works with GSM format. ATT and TM are the only two USA carriers using GSM. The rest of the world uses GSM also. Verizon and Sprint uses CDMA. Kind of like Beta and VHS........totally incompatible.
 
Hello,
I have an AT&T Business account (saves a lot of money) and I can't seem to figure out how to pre-order the iPhone 6. From Apple's site, it says business accounts are not supported, but from AT&T's site, there is no way to pre-order from a business account. Since I am on the Next plan, where you have a 0-month contract but you pay full retail price for the phone, it's the same cost as getting the T-Mobile phone. I checked and it is the same model number as the AT&T phone, but if I got that and it came and I put my AT&T SIM card in it, would it work? I can't find any other way to order one.

Moreover, is there a way to pre-order the iPhone 6 from AT&T with a business account? Has anyone done this?

Thanks.

You are kind of screwed. I was in your boat the last few years until I kept getting screwed and just changed it to a personal plan

You need to set up an AT&T premier online account. You do that through customer service. But their sales website is so buggy that it may not even let you order until the next day.

Do yourself a favor just order from apple directly at full price, then order from AT&T and sell whichever phone comes in second
 
T-Mobile 5S iPhones bought from any apple store (online/pre-order, or physical store) came unlocked.

It will likely be the same case for the 6/6+

Hope that clears it up.

Hopefully, the t-mobile one is unlocked!

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These are the answers I'm looking for, especially looking at the ajax thing. It's safe to say that T-Mobile iPhones BOUGHT FROM APPLE will be unlocked....hopefully!
 
the correct answer !

yesterday i had a chat with apple support named Charles, he said that the t-mobile bought through apple online store with full price (649 for 6, 749 for 6p) is unlocked.

today and to be sure i had a chat with another apple support lady named Jessica and she said I should verify from t-mobile and gave me their contact number, and i called them and they said that if i buy it from apple online store it will be unlocked, and if i get it from t-mobile it will be locked but they can unlocked it for me.

so i think this is the final answer : the t-mobile version at full price being bought from apple online store will be unlocked without having to visit t-mobile or call them.
 
yesterday i had a chat with apple support named Charles, he said that the t-mobile bought through apple online store with full price (649 for 6, 749 for 6p) is unlocked.

today and to be sure i had a chat with another apple support lady named Jessica and she said I should verify from t-mobile and gave me their contact number, and i called them and they said that if i buy it from apple online store it will be unlocked, and if i get it from t-mobile it will be locked but they can unlocked it for me.

so i think this is the final answer : the t-mobile version at full price being bought from apple online store will be unlocked without having to visit t-mobile or call them.

That sounds a little more reassuring. I called apple an hour ago and I asked if the contract free iphone is unlocked or if it locked to tmobile. The lady i talked to said that it was locked to tmobile. I might not have phrased it right. I should have asked her if it was unlocked if I bought from the apple website.
 
So if I buy the T-mobile no contract iphone 6 from Apple directly, I can just pop in a Verizon nano sim and "everything" will work? No missing bands, or CDMA/LTE (Yes I am just vomiting words I don't fully understand). :D

Verizon requires Verizon bought phones. No real way around it.
 
Just like last year, this is one big dilemma.

Are the "contract-free" iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus on T-Mobile actually unlocked?

I want to pre-order one the minute it becomes available, but I want an unlocked model.

I wonder too. Last year, you had to maintain 40 days of service before T-Mobile unlocked it, and supposedly, you had to call in. If Apple is going to offer contract-free, they should offer the official unlocked version too.
 
FWIW, last year I ordered the T-mobile contract free version and it turned out to be unlocked.
 
Verizon requires Verizon bought phones. No real way around it.


I am SO confused.
I JUST got off the phone with Verizon asking about my wife in Canada who wants to buy a phone there and bring it here later and use on any network of her choice - and I also want to upgrade. I am currently on Verizon and would like to buy an unlocked phone.
Verizon just advised us BOTH to buy "unlocked phones" and they can be used on Verizon. She literally just said that.

Also I am still confused with the CDMA/GSM thing - some people say the unlocked phone (if it is) will only work on GSM. I thought the phones were all capable of working on either band now.
 
The T-Mobile ones are unlocked:

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo204/Kesarion/tmobile_unlocked_zps25489c43.png

as opposed to:

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo204/Kesarion/ScreenShot2014-09-10at60617PM_zpsfc0aa54c.png

and

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo204/Kesarion/ScreenShot2014-09-10at60627PM_zps68464e07.png

I would rather trust the programmers and engineers that worked on the website to know their information than the Apple support reps.

This is probably true only for the Apple store though.
 
What are the steps to activate a contract free T-Mobile 6 Plus purchased from Apple using ATT service?

Just remove the factory sim and insert the ATT sim, then follow the activation step?

Thanks in advance
 
Maybe I'm being picky, but just because they list the price as "Unlocked" doesn't mean the TMo one actually is unlocked.

Yes, it does because Apple does not sell any locked on-contract phones configured for T-Mobile. The "T-Mobile" phone is nothing more than a factory unlocked iPhone with a preinstalled SIM card.

Buy through Apple, it will be unlocked. The "T-Mobile" phone will be the only unlocked iPhone that you can order online at launch.

Buy at a T-Mobile store, then you will need to sign up for 40 days of service before they will unlock the phone.

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I am SO confused.
I JUST got off the phone with Verizon asking about my wife in Canada who wants to buy a phone there and bring it here later and use on any network of her choice - and I also want to upgrade. I am currently on Verizon and would like to buy an unlocked phone.
Verizon just advised us BOTH to buy "unlocked phones" and they can be used on Verizon. She literally just said that.

Also I am still confused with the CDMA/GSM thing - some people say the unlocked phone (if it is) will only work on GSM. I thought the phones were all capable of working on either band now.

Verizon phones are unlocked (part of a deal they made with the govt. to gain approval for their LTE spectrum). The only difference from the "unlocked" phones is that the Verizon phones also have CDMA enabled. You cannot use a non-Verizon iPhone on Verizon's network. You can use a Verizon iPhone on AT&T and T-Mobile's network.

GSM is active on all iPhones, even on Sprint. However, with Sprint phones, GSM can only be used with international SIM cards.
 
Yes, it does because Apple does not sell any locked on-contract phones configured for T-Mobile. The "T-Mobile" phone is nothing more than a factory unlocked iPhone with a preinstalled SIM card.

Buy through Apple, it will be unlocked. The "T-Mobile" phone will be the only unlocked iPhone that you can order online at launch.

Buy at a T-Mobile store, then you will need to sign up for 40 days of service before they will unlock the phone.
I will probably just get the tmobile version then in hopes that I can use it with AT&T when they go up for preorder. If it turns out it is "locked" to tmobile for some reason I could just return it to apple right, without getting charged a restocking fee?
 
yesterday i had a chat with apple support named Charles, he said that the t-mobile bought through apple online store with full price (649 for 6, 749 for 6p) is unlocked.

today and to be sure i had a chat with another apple support lady named Jessica and she said I should verify from t-mobile and gave me their contact number, and i called them and they said that if i buy it from apple online store it will be unlocked, and if i get it from t-mobile it will be locked but they can unlocked it for me.

so i think this is the final answer : the t-mobile version at full price being bought from apple online store will be unlocked without having to visit t-mobile or call them.
Thank you!!

I also have a feeling they're saying its locked because they don't want people to buy it to goto att.
 
Im going to visit New York Next week, i read all the replies on this thread, i guess im going to buy an T-mobile version to take back with me back to Taiwan!I was wondering...is it the same buying one from the Apple retail store than buying online on the apple store?
Can I turn i back if its not unlocked?
 
Take out the T-Mobile SIM that comes with it and put in your AT&T SIM. Then activate the phone. That's it.

If it comes with a T-Mobile SIM, doesn't that mean you have to purchase T-Mobile service when you buy the phone? How does that work?
 
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Verizon phones are unlocked (part of a deal they made with the govt. to gain approval for their LTE spectrum). The only difference from the "unlocked" phones is that the Verizon phones also have CDMA enabled. You cannot use a non-Verizon iPhone on Verizon's network. You can use a Verizon iPhone on AT&T and T-Mobile's network.

GSM is active on all iPhones, even on Sprint. However, with Sprint phones, GSM can only be used with international SIM cards.

Thanks for the response.
So if I buy the T-Mobile "unlocked" phone from the onsale on Apple - then I CANT use it on Verizon? So why is that if the phones technically all work on both networks?
 
What are the steps to activate a contract free T-Mobile 6 Plus purchased from Apple using ATT service?

Just remove the factory sim and insert the ATT sim, then follow the activation step?

Thanks in advance

I have some doubt.
 
Im going to visit New York Next week, i read all the replies on this thread, i guess im going to buy an T-mobile version to take back with me back to Taiwan!I was wondering...is it the same buying one from the Apple retail store than buying online on the apple store?
Can I turn i back if its not unlocked?

They tell people it's locked (to discourage the scalpers, I believe), but it's not if you buy it full price from Apple. And yes, if by some chance it did turn out to be locked, you have 14 days to return it for a full refund.
 
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