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Acorn

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I was wondering if it was possible for apple to make a dongle like what the microsoft surface has. Surface has a 50 dollar dongle that you plug in the back of your tv and then its powered by a usb. Its small the size of amazon firestick. then what is on your surface screen is on your tv screen. That would be a neat feature to have for the ipad. Microsofts solution is nice because its so small and is powered by the tv itself. It seems like the optimal solution.
 

shox2k2

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wouldn't that be the apple tv? and you can use airplay to do that. Like you can with your phone/computer. I know at one point they did have a wire you could plug hdmi adapter but now I think they use airplay.
 

Acorn

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airplay needs apple tv and it is not that ideal for me. I was looking for something smaller that could be powered by the tv itself. apple tv has way too many things I don't need anyway. Since apple tv serves the purpose it seems we cant expect anything else.
 

garyleecn

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Basically the answer is AirPlay.
And like #2 post said, Apple TV would probably be your best solution, as it's first party accessory

Other solutions would be computers like Intel computer stick and similar, and then install AirPlay server applications. This may not be as stable as Apple TV, but sure can be powered by usb and hide behind the TV
 

Abazigal

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wouldn't that be the apple tv? and you can use airplay to do that. Like you can with your phone/computer. I know at one point they did have a wire you could plug hdmi adapter but now I think they use airplay.
An Apple TV requires its own power cord, which would be tricky to connect to a projector.

Currently, I have an Apple TV in my classroom. I had to run a 15m HDMI cable from it to the projector, because of the need to plug it in to the power mains. So I have a very long and thick black cable running from the projector, above the lights, across the ceiling, down the window sill to my desk.

Conversely, my colleague used an EZ-cast dongle (something like a Chromecast stick), which powers off a USB-connector plugged into the projector. It's a neater and more compact solution, but also arguably more specialised, in that the wifi connection cancels out any internet connection your mirrored device would have. The software has very limited functionality on iOS, because it requires control of your screen.

So the EZ-cast dongle is more portable but also way more limited, but fits my needs just fine. I wouldn't mind an "Airplay-mirroring" stick from Apple just for that functionality alone.
 

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That would be pretty great. Those Surface dongles are nice, it looks so easy to just plug in and use. Apple should totally make a little airplay receiver like that.
 

T'hain Esh Kelch

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An Airplay dongle? Neat idea, but I don't think it would be worth it for Apple, since they have the Apple TV, and you can get plenty of TV dongles out there which turns your entire TV into a computer. Intels TV stick comes to mind here, quite impressive little thing.

The market for such an Apple dongle would be minimal.
 

calden

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Wow, were have you guys been, these dongles already exist, negating the need for the Apple TV. I personally use the EZCast. It's a great little product, supports DLNA, Miracast, WiDi along with AirPlay. I'm always carrying along the EZCast when I'm traveling and even just out and about. Though I really rarely use it with my iPad Pro as I'm just not a real fan of how iOS streams it's desktop to external displays. The resolution and aspect ratio are hardly ever supported, DPI looks comically huge, doesn't support extending the desktop but the biggest thing for me is I can't connect my little mini Logitech Dinivo. So Instead I use my new Google Pixel C (which I just love) or Surface Pro 4. With the Pixel C I use a great little app called Second Display, with it, I can; extend the desktop and not just mirror it, both the resolution and aspect ratio of any external display I connect to is supported (including every app that is installed), I can also even change the DPI to reflect that of a normal desktop. Which means when I boot into either Remix OS or Arch Linux both of which are Installed and in a triple boot, I have a really nice desktop machine connected to a TV in the hotel room for when I'm traveling. I can also, unlike my iPad Pro, stream a movie to the TV while the kids use the Pixel C to play a game like Modern Combat 5 at the same time and with two game controllers.



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Gav2k

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You can hack an Apple TV to run 12v or 5v. There's guides all over Google to do it for a few bucks
 

Abazigal

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Wow, were have you guys been, these dongles already exist, negating the need for the Apple TV. I personally use the EZCast. It's a great little product, supports DLNA, Miracast, WiDi along with AirPlay. I'm always carrying along the EZCast when I'm traveling and even just out and about. Though I really rarely use it with my iPad Pro as I'm just not a real fan of how iOS streams it's desktop to external displays. The resolution and aspect ratio are hardly ever supported, DPI looks comically huge, doesn't support extending the desktop but the biggest thing for me is I can't connect my little mini Logitech Dinivo. So Instead I use my new Google Pixel C (which I just love) or Surface Pro 4. With the Pixel C I use a great little app called Second Display, with it, I can; extend the desktop and not just mirror it, both the resolution and aspect ratio of any external display I connect to is supported (including every app that is installed), I can also even change the DPI to reflect that of a normal desktop. Which means when I boot into either Remix OS or Arch Linux both of which are Installed and in a triple boot, I have a really nice desktop machine connected to a TV in the hotel room for when I'm traveling. I can also, unlike my iPad Pro, stream a movie to the TV while the kids use the Pixel C to play a game like Modern Combat 5 at the same time and with two game controllers.



ezcast-chromecast-dongle.jpg

EZCast doesn't do what I want to do with my iPad. The app only lets you use a camera app. There is supposedly a function to import documents, but I never got it to work. It does work with Macs though.

It works fine with Windows and Android devices, but if you want to reliably mirror an Apple device, the Apple TV is still your best bet.
 

laudern

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Wow, were have you guys been, these dongles already exist, negating the need for the Apple TV. I personally use the EZCast. It's a great little product, supports DLNA, Miracast, WiDi along with AirPlay. I'm always carrying along the EZCast when I'm traveling and even just out and about. Though I really rarely use it with my iPad Pro as I'm just not a real fan of how iOS streams it's desktop to external displays. The resolution and aspect ratio are hardly ever supported, DPI looks comically huge, doesn't support extending the desktop but the biggest thing for me is I can't connect my little mini Logitech Dinivo. So Instead I use my new Google Pixel C (which I just love) or Surface Pro 4. With the Pixel C I use a great little app called Second Display, with it, I can; extend the desktop and not just mirror it, both the resolution and aspect ratio of any external display I connect to is supported (including every app that is installed), I can also even change the DPI to reflect that of a normal desktop. Which means when I boot into either Remix OS or Arch Linux both of which are Installed and in a triple boot, I have a really nice desktop machine connected to a TV in the hotel room for when I'm traveling. I can also, unlike my iPad Pro, stream a movie to the TV while the kids use the Pixel C to play a game like Modern Combat 5 at the same time and with two game controllers.



ezcast-chromecast-dongle.jpg
This is awesome. I was completely unaware this even existed. Just what I wanted. Cheap streaming of the iPad without any of the other crap apple tv offers.
 
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