Is there a "cloud storage" option for PPC?

[ww2_1943]

Hello all,

I have a G5 and G4 modded PowerBook Pismo. I can easily access the internet with both computers. On the G5 I can even access OneDrive, even if it is slow. I don't think I would try on the Pismo.

I would like to use these computers a little more often, but it would be a huge help if there was a web-based way to access documents between machines. I don't expect something that sync documents between machines, though that would be nice. I would happily settle for a place that I can upload and download documents without the taxing interface of Google Drive or OneDrive.

Does such a solution exist?

 

[davisdelo]

I like using a WebDAV server for this purpose.

 

[eyoungren]

Hello all,

I have a G5 and G4 modded PowerBook Pismo. I can easily access the internet with both computers. On the G5 I can even access OneDrive, even if it is slow. I don't think I would try on the Pismo.

I would like to use these computers a little more often, but it would be a huge help if there was a web-based way to access documents between machines. I don't expect something that sync documents between machines, though that would be nice. I would happily settle for a place that I can upload and download documents without the taxing interface of Google Drive or OneDrive.

Does such a solution exist?

You can access dropbox.com and use that if you like. I'm not sure about a web interface for One Drive.

However, I find it easier to leverage a Mac or PC that can actually run these apps natively. What you do is simply share the folder on the computer running the app. Then just mount that share on your G4 and G5 and interact with the share the way you would normally.

In my case, my Dropbox folder is shared. I can mount that share on any of my PowerPC Macs and then move, copy, delete, create folders, etc and it all reflects up to Dropbox. Anything any other computer or device does to Dropbox you're going to see reflected in the share you mounted on your G4/G5.

 

[ww2_1943]

I like using a WebDAV server for this purpose.

Do I have to set up my own server?

 

[ww2_1943]

You can access dropbox.com and use that if you like. I'm not sure about a web interface for One Drive.

However, I find it easier to leverage a Mac or PC that can actually run these apps natively. What you do is simply share the folder on the computer running the app. Then just mount that share on your G4 and G5 and interact with the share the way you would normally.

In my case, my Dropbox folder is shared. I can mount that share on any of my PowerPC Macs and then move, copy, delete, create folders, etc and it all reflects up to Dropbox. Anything any other computer or device does to Dropbox you're going to see reflected in the share you mounted on your G4/G5.

Can I make a share folder on my MacBook Air M1 that will work with my G4 and G5? Also, can I do this wireless?

 

[eyoungren]

Do I have to set up my own server?

No.

On a Mac you would open System Preferences>File Sharing. Click the plus to add what you want to share. That can either be a drive or a folder. In this case you probably just want to share the Dropbox folder. So, you'd click on that and share it.



The pics above show one of the drives on my MacPro being shared. That means I can mount the drive and access the Dropbox folder from any Mac or PC on my home network.

Can I make a share folder on my MacBook Air M1 that will work with my G4 and G5? Also, can I do this wireless?

Yes you can. See above.

Wireless or wired it doesn't matter as long as the drive/folder you are sharing is on your home network and your G4/G5 are also on your home network.

On the G4/G5, from Finder you can either see the M1 Mac or use Go>Connect to Server. Then you'd find your M1 Mac and connect and mount the drive.

 

[ww2_1943]

No.

On a Mac you would open System Preferences>File Sharing. Click the plus to add what you want to share. That can either be a drive or a folder. In this case you probably just want to share the Dropbox folder. So, you'd click on that and share it.

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The pics above show one of the drives on my MacPro being shared. That means I can mount the drive and access the Dropbox folder from any Mac or PC on my home network.


Yes you can. See above.

Wireless or wired it doesn't matter as long as the drive/folder you are sharing is on your home network and your G4/G5 are also on your home network.

On the G4/G5, from Finder you can either see the M1 Mac or use Go>Connect to Server. Then you'd find your M1 Mac and connect and mount the drive.

Thank you for the clear instructions!

I am trying to access DropBox from a browser now. The login screen doesn't come up on InterWebPCC but it does on Safari. I am using Sorbet Leopard. Regardless, if I can do what you just posted I should be fine.

 

[eyoungren]

Thank you for the clear instructions!

I am trying to access DropBox from a browser now. The login screen doesn't come up on InterWebPCC but it does on Safari. I am using Sorbet Leopard. Regardless, if I can do what you just posted I should be fine.

You're welcome.

It's just sharing drives or folders is all. Basic sharing any version of OS X can do. If you run into any problems, let us know. Keep in mind that later versions of OS X (such as your M1) prefer the SMB protocol for connections. Tiger and Leopard can connect either AFP or SMB.

 

[ww2_1943]

You're welcome.

It's just sharing drives or folders is all. Basic sharing any version of OS X can do. If you run into any problems, let us know. Keep in mind that later versions of OS X (such as your M1) prefer the SMB protocol for connections. Tiger and Leopard can connect either AFP or SMB.

I can see my M1 MBA on the G5 but when I click on it I get a message "Connection Failed."

However, I can see the G5 on my MBA and access the Shared Folder. Inside of the shared folder is a DropBox folder (I didn't put it in there) but when I try to open it from the MBA I get a message that says I don't have permission. I can open the folder from my G5. It is an empty folder.

 

[eyoungren]

I can see my M1 MBA on the G5 but when I click on it I get a message "Connection Failed."

However, I can see the G5 on my MBA and access the Shared Folder. Inside of the shared folder is a DropBox folder (I didn't put it in there) but when I try to open it from the MBA I get a message that says I don't have permission. I can open the folder from my G5. It is an empty folder.

On your M1, in File Sharing, did you add the account(s) you wish to have access and give them permissions?

On the G5, with 'Connection Failed' there should be a button somewhere that says 'Connect As'. Click that and then enter the credentials of the account you gave permissions to access.

 

[Freeangel1]

You should find a used Mac mini to do your file sharing on. uses less electricity. But then again the G5 sucks a lot of juice.

You can keep the Mac mini up and running 24/7 without using a lot of electric.

Any M1 machine will be energy efficient too as a 24/7 file sharing machine.

 

[Dronecatcher]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/sorbet-leopard-your-power-mac-unleashed-revision-1-5-released.2300924/page-40?post=31118258#post-31118258

 

[pc297]

So the patched Dropbox from ppcAppStore doesn't work anymore I take it then?

PPCAppStore

The PPCAppStore is a software distribution platform, for PowerPC macs, compatible with MacOS 10.4 Tiger, MacOS 10.5 Leopard and MacOS 10.6 SnowLeopard OS. The PPCAppStore is a project developed by Adrian Oprea, a computer enthusiast and is freely distributed on a non-profit basis. It allows...

ppcappstore.wordpress.com

 

[NewbiePPC]

Can I make a share folder on my MacBook Air M1 that will work with my G4 and G5? Also, can I do this wireless?

No, you can't, newer versions of macOs doesn't support AFP (for sharing but it will connect to it, at least in Big Sur, not sure about Monterey) and the SMB V3 protocol is too new for your older macs to connect (I think those use SMB V1), you can have a bridge machine running Yosemite up to Catalina. I believe those versions have AFP, SMB V3 and Dropbox support if I'm not wrong. But I thing that you can have in your G5 or G4 file sharing and your MacBook Air and the other Mac will connect using AFP.

 

[eyoungren]

No, you can't, newer versions of macOs doesn't support AFP (for sharing but it will connect to it, at least in Big Sur, not sure about Monterey) and the SMB V3 protocol is too new for your older macs to connect (I think those use SMB V1), you can have a bridge machine running Yosemite up to Catalina. I believe those versions have AFP, SMB V3 and Dropbox support if I'm not wrong. But I thing that you can have in your G5 or G4 file sharing and your MacBook Air and the other Mac will connect using AFP.

Tiger and Leopard use SMB, which is SMB2 (at the very least in Leopard's case). You can also force SMB1 by using CIFS.

Are you saying that Apple has completely removed SMB1 and SMB2 from the M1 Macs? There is no backwards compatibility on this?

 

[Amethyst1]

What about setting up an FTP server on one of the machines?

 

[NewbiePPC]

Tiger and Leopard use SMB, which is SMB2 (at the very least in Leopard's case). You can also force SMB1 by using CIFS.

Are you saying that Apple has completely removed SMB1 and SMB2 from the M1 Macs? There is no backwards compatibility on this?

No, I'm not saying that. I'm not sure but I think that the version that apple uses until 10.8 is SMBv1. I just have kind of similar problem recently. Doesn't have nothing to do with the M1 chip, is at OS level. That becomes a thing in Big Sur and the M.. chips if I'm not wrong only can run macOs 11+.

 

[eyoungren]

No, I'm not saying that. I'm not sure but I think that the version that apple uses until 10.8 is SMBv1 and never used SMBv2. I just have kind of similar problem recently. Doesn't have nothing to do with the M1 chip, is at OS level. That becomes a thing in Big Sur and the M.. chips if I'm not wrong only can run macOs 11+.

I'm just trying to understand is all. SMB (Server Message Block) is Samba. Granted, up until around Mavericks Apple had it's own version of SMB before they got with the program and went with the industry standard.

But SMB is still SMB I would think. I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work unless Apple is specifically trying to exclude old Macs from connecting to new hardware.

 

[NewbiePPC]

SMBv1 has its security holes for that reason even MS disable it in W10, I guess that apple does the same thing.

 

[eyoungren]

SMBv1 has its security holes for that reason even MS disable it in W10, I guess that apple does the same thing.

Then there has to be a way to re-enable it. In my old job I re-enabled SMB1 on W10 PCs.

SMB2 at least: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/680252

CMD+K in the Finder, then CIFS://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX should still work (from a perfunctory Google search) - where XXX is the IP address of the Mac you want to connect to.

 

[ww2_1943]

Tiger and Leopard use SMB, which is SMB2 (at the very least in Leopard's case). You can also force SMB1 by using CIFS.

Are you saying that Apple has completely removed SMB1 and SMB2 from the M1 Macs? There is no backwards compatibility on this?

I got it to work last night

 

[ww2_1943]

So the patched Dropbox from ppcAppStore doesn't work anymore I take it then?

PPCAppStore

The PPCAppStore is a software distribution platform, for PowerPC macs, compatible with MacOS 10.4 Tiger, MacOS 10.5 Leopard and MacOS 10.6 SnowLeopard OS. The PPCAppStore is a project developed by Adrian Oprea, a computer enthusiast and is freely distributed on a non-profit basis. It allows...

ppcappstore.wordpress.com

I didn't realize there is an app. I'll give it a try tonight

 

[eyoungren]

I didn't realize there is an app. I'll give it a try tonight

@Czo was maintaining a PowerPC Dropbox app for us for several years. It got to be difficult so he dropped the project. But we got at least three or four years out of it.

I would be surprised if the app in the app store link worked. I could be wrong, but this is the first I've heard of there being such an app there. It might actually be Czo's work, IDK.

 

[Dronecatcher]

@Czo was maintaining a PowerPC Dropbox app for us for several years. It got to be difficult so he dropped the project. But we got at least three or four years out of it.

I would be surprised if the app in the app store link worked. I could be wrong, but this is the first I've heard of there being such an app there. It might actually be Czo's work, IDK.

No, it's a reference to the original PPC Store from a few years back.

 

[eyoungren]

No, it's a reference to the original PPC Store from a few years back.

Then, yeah, I'd be very surprised it works.