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AVR2

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Jan 16, 2006
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I'd love the convenience of being able to do a full system backup to the cloud, but I can't find anything that will facilitate this. All the popular services like iDrive and Backblaze only backup personal data and deliberately exclude the OS and apps. Is there one I'm missing?
 
What backup you want, depends in what/how you want to restore. So lets start with that:

I suggest that macOS is best restored by getting it from Apple at the start of a disaster recovery. So I will ignore your wanting to backup the OS as it is not needed for restoration.

But you might want to restore all of apps, your data, and settings (for both macOS and apps). In that case, the answer is No. You can't recover everything directly from any cloud backup service. You can only do that from a local backup where the local backup might be on a directly attached disk, another Mac, or a NAS. Products to do that include Time Machine and Carbon Copy Cloner.

A local backup is the primary mitigation strategy for a local disaster, particularly hardware or software failure. And can provide full restoration.

A cloud backup is a recognised mitigation strategy for more serious (but more unlikely) disasters - ransomware, theft, fire, etc. For such disasters you might be prepared to accept that recovery will need download and reinstall of apps and some loss of settings. Of course, this will only be possible after you have purchased replacement hardware (and possibly somewhere to live). But what you would most want to recover is your irreplaceable data (documents, photos and so on).

There can be times when the cloud backup is helpful for restoring specific data, but I suggest that is not its main purpose.

If you still want to backup everything to the cloud (apps, settings and data), I prefer Arq over Backblaze or iDrive. But I would only use my Arq backup to restore all my data plus a few specific settings and configuration files. And that restoration would be after having a replacement Mac and a working macOS with the Arq software installed.
 
What backup you want, depends in what/how you want to restore. So lets start with that:

I suggest that macOS is best restored by getting it from Apple at the start of a disaster recovery. So I will ignore your wanting to backup the OS as it is not needed for restoration.

But you might want to restore all of apps, your data, and settings (for both macOS and apps). In that case, the answer is No. You can't recover everything directly from any cloud backup service. You can only do that from a local backup where the local backup might be on a directly attached disk, another Mac, or a NAS. Products to do that include Time Machine and Carbon Copy Cloner.

A local backup is the primary mitigation strategy for a local disaster, particularly hardware or software failure. And can provide full restoration.

A cloud backup is a recognised mitigation strategy for more serious (but more unlikely) disasters - ransomware, theft, fire, etc. For such disasters you might be prepared to accept that recovery will need download and reinstall of apps and some loss of settings. Of course, this will only be possible after you have purchased replacement hardware (and possibly somewhere to live). But what you would most want to recover is your irreplaceable data (documents, photos and so on).

There can be times when the cloud backup is helpful for restoring specific data, but I suggest that is not its main purpose.

If you still want to backup everything to the cloud (apps, settings and data), I prefer Arq over Backblaze or iDrive. But I would only use my Arq backup to restore all my data plus a few specific settings and configuration files. And that restoration would be after having a replacement Mac and a working macOS with the Arq software installed.
Good comment.
 
'Is there one I'm missing?'
Yes, pCloud, based in Switzerland & they have a free trial.
I gave it a try and it's fine but decided on a different strategy to back up my apps.
I keep an SSD in a safe deposit box with all my apps which nowadays don't change much if at all.
I then use iDrive for my documents. They provide 10GB free which is what I use.
 
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