Is there any point to keep having iTunes Match with Apple Music coming out?

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by Aluminum213, Jun 28, 2015.

  1. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    I'm still not clear if I need to keep iTunes Match or not. Will Apple Music also upload all my music to the cloud like iTunes Match? If so, then why does iTunes Match still exist?
  2. pleomorph macrumors member


    Oct 14, 2011
    I've been wondering the same thing. The only advantage I see is that with iTunes Match, you can download the iTunes high quality version of the song and keep it permanently (even after you end your iTunes Match subscription). With Apple Music, you can only "keep" songs (that you don't have a local copy of) while you have an active subscription.
  3. mjschabow macrumors 68000

    Dec 25, 2013
    I think I'm going to use the 3 month trial to see if I use match at all. I'm actually looking forward to the subscription because sometimes I have the weirdest issues with iTunes match with songs showing up outside the album they're in where it ends up causing a lot of maintenance on my end.
  4. Mike MA macrumors 68000

    Mike MA

    Sep 21, 2012
    Found a good read out here:
  5. Aluminum213 thread starter macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    iTunes Match has been a bug filled mess since day one, but I've used it because I didn't want to lose my music
  6. sayhitokyle macrumors member


    Nov 16, 2010
    Norwich, UK
    This is from the Apple Music FAQ

    "With an Apple Music membership, your entire library lives in iCloud. We compare every track in your collection to the Apple Music library to see if we have a copy. If we do, you can automatically listen to it straight from the cloud. If you have music that’s not in our catalog, we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC. It’s all in iCloud, so it won’t take up any space on your devices."

    The article I found it on ( states that you may as well cancel once your non-iTunes listed songs are uploaded.
    What confuses me is whether I will need to re-upload all of my tracks that aren't listed, or if Apple Music will pull my existing cloud library and just fill in the gaps.
  7. ufkdo macrumors 6502

    Oct 30, 2010
    That mashable article does not even correctly describe itunes match. I don't think it is a trustable source. It says we won't be able to stream uploaded content, which is clearly wrong.
  8. sundog925 macrumors 6502a

    Dec 19, 2011
    what about $10/month vs $25 per YEAR? thats a big difference.
  9. fatboyslick macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2010
    Glad i found this thread and others have the same questions I have!

    iTunes Match is a bit of a mess...I do find songs out of albums, groupings messed up, positions in the alphabetised list are wrong etc...but its a service i cant live without.
    I spend nearly every day retagging songs to get them to be correct in iTunes..they are then when i find them on my phone or ipad they're wrong....even sometimes to the extent where theyre different across Macbook, iPhone and iPad!!!

    Anyway, Apple need to readdress how Match will work with Music. Im not that bothered about Music and the £10 sub is a big jump from my current annual fee for Match.
    But it's simply not clear how they work together.
    As someone stated above, if you just join Music, can you still upload non-iTunes songs (which I have thousands of) and if you unsub what happens to them!?!
  10. maternusgold macrumors newbie


    Jun 29, 2015
    Hello everyone, first post, I'm new here...

    I was thinking about that too.
    As I understood the mashable article says that you can't stream songs with Apple Music that are not matched..which would be an advantage for iTunes Match but it clearly depends on your library and if you want to stream the non-matched songs...
    "The caveat is that you won't be able to stream songs from your iTunes library that aren't matched from Apple Music. Those will only be accessible as downloads."

    "For example, Apple Music won't let you stream any music from The Beatles. If you have any Beatles tracks in your iTunes library, you'll have to upload them to iCloud and then download them for regular offline listening in the Apple Music app."​
  11. fatboyslick macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2010
    "The caveat is that you won't be able to stream songs from your iTunes library that aren't matched from Apple Music. Those will only be accessible as downloads."

    That makes a complete hash of my understanding of what these two products are offering!
    Currently in Match, you can stream AND download.

    I have growing concerns that Apple Music is going to screw up how Match works
  12. zhenya macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2005
    As a Match and Beats subscriber, these are interesting questions to me. The above answers sound correct based on how things currently work - a simple streaming subscription can't allow you to also stream things that they don't have license to. With Apple Music you can stream any of their music. With Apple Music + iTunes Match, you can stream anything in their catalog AND anything in your own catalog.

    Who knows if they will instead simplify this by merely including Match with an Apple Music subscription.
  13. gsmornot macrumors 68030


    Sep 29, 2014
    I thought Eddy said Apple Music will give you the same features as Match. The only reason to keep both would be devices that can't stream like older devices. I don't think both services will be needed. I have a few months left on my Match service so I will verify soon enough.
  14. mpayne2k macrumors 6502a


    May 12, 2010
    Think of it this way...if you use an iPod shuffle, nano or classic, then iTunes Match is for you. You can't sync Apple Music songs "you don't own" to your device. With iTunes Match, however, you have access to your files on iOS and offline devices. Also, iTunes Match is a great way to "upgrade" your lesser mp3s to iTunes Plus quality. Some food for thought.

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