Is there any special reason why in-app Apple Pay isn't supported for the 5s?

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  1. stephen1108 macrumors 65816

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    But IS supported for the iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3?

    I was wondering if there was a legit reason, or if it's another case of Siri being incompatible with the iPhone 4 while it was on the 4S.

    This may have been covered already, please forgive me if it has been :)
     
  2. Phil A. Moderator

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    The only technical reason I can think of is that maybe the secure enclave chip on the 5s isn't compatible with the requirements of Apple Pay?
     
  3. stephen1108 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    That crossed my mind, but I didn't know for sure!
     
  4. revs macrumors regular

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    Yup - the reason i've heard is that it hasn't got the ability to generate the random tokens used for payment.
     
  5. newellj macrumors 601

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    Because it doesn't have the necessary hardware (the NFC chip).
     
  6. FSMBP macrumors 68020

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    That's not the reason - iPad Air 2 doesn't have NFC but still can do In-App Apple Pay.
     
  7. xero9 macrumors 6502a

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    Wouldn't it be funny if it actually has NFC, but the antennas were just "turned off".
     
  8. TWD98j macrumors regular

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    Apple Pay is only supported on the new iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3 for in app purchases.

    Only the iPhone 6/6+ supports Apple Pay at brick & mortar retail stores - the new iPads do not and they cannot because they are not NFC equipped.

    The iPhone 5 series phones lack the secure element that is needed for Apple Pay transactions. At least that is what Apple is saying at this point.

    Supposedly, if paired with the Apple Watch (when it launches) it is supposed to enable iPhone 5 series phones to use Apple Pay.
     
  9. Menel macrumors 603

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    Is there any special reason why in-app Apple Pay isn't supported for the 5s?

    This, except Secure Element.

    Secure Enclave is the isolated partition within A7 and A8 where they store TouchID data.

    Secure Element is the proprietary hardware that stores device acct number for ApplePay.
     
  10. newellj macrumors 601

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    Only for in-app purchases. You can't tap a terminal at a B&M merchant with the Air2. And the reason is...because it doesn't have an NFC chip.

    Edit - looks like TWD98j already got that.
     
  11. bgro macrumors 6502a

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    Doesn't the device have to have touch id in order to support apple pay?
     
  12. Tyler23, Oct 21, 2014
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    The 5s has Touch ID.

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    This thread is about the Apple Pay feature within supported apps, not Apple Pay at stores using NFC..
     
  13. bgro macrumors 6502a

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    Lol..completely forgot the 5S had touch id. I was thinking about this last night with my iPad Air, wondering why it didn't support Apple Pay within apps and figured it was because it didn't have touch ID. getting confused in my old age..
     

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