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Is there hope for Siri?

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chfilm

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Hey guys,

I love the new features of Siri on ios10, like being able to call a Uber or send money.
It's seriously useful, and I have high hopes they'll add to do list apps next, that'd be just great: "add 'buy groceries' to 'things'" and stuff.

But why, oh why are these features not available on our beloved watch?? This is where it would come in handy the most! Just ask your watch to order a cab, instead of fiddling around with the app or pulling out the iPhone 7+.

Do you think there's hope this will get to the watch eventually?
 
Siri and the Apple Watch is still evolving. Being the Siri is heavily reliant with the Apple Watch, I do See Siri evolving. I personally would like to give Siri a voice, with feedback from the Apple Watch. The speaker is sufficient enough for audible feedback.
 
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I just don't understand why They didn't give Siri on the watch the ability to Interact with the same apps in the same way she can on the phone!
 
Ugh Siri can't even Shazam a song on the watch, it is ridiculous.
 
While watching Westworld I asked Siri (via the Watch), "Who composed the music for Game of Thrones?" as I thought it might be the same composer as Westworld and figured this would be a piece of cake for Siri!

Instead of an answer to this basic query, I was told that Siri can "help with TV shows on your iPhone." I then paused the show, tried to remember where I'd left my phone, and walked over to continue the search, but even with the full power of the phone, Siri could not find the correct answer.

Come on Apple!

Edit: Now I see it works on the phone if I phrase it as, "Hey Siri, ask Google who composed the music for Game of Thrones." Siri conducts a Google search and shows me Google's answer.
 
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I think the Google's release of the Pixel with integrated Google Assistant (or whatever it is called) currently trumps Siri simply for the amount of data that Google can throw behind it. I hope that it gives Apple a kick in the arse they need to bring Siri up to scratch.
 
They really need to double down the Siri effort. I currently use it for very basic stuff - Countdowns during cooking, setting alarms and such, but nothing advanced as it never really succeeds.
 
CarlosQG said:
Ugh Siri can't even Shazam a song on the watch, it is ridiculous.
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The microphone is too low quality for that sadly.

I don't understand why Siri can't use the phone microphone though. It's alot she can't do or understand that is baffling.

Turn off my AppleTV.. I can't do that
Play music on my iPad.. I can't do that
Connect to my speakers.. I can't do anything
Set a timer for 1 hour.. Ok I set the timer
 
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Ollé said:
I think the Google's release of the Pixel with integrated Google Assistant (or whatever it is called) currently trumps Siri simply for the amount of data that Google can throw behind it. I hope that it gives Apple a kick in the arse they need to bring Siri up to scratch.
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I do agree google is a much better assistant but the way Apple treats privacy is blocking the way for Siri, If Apple wouldnt care at all about privacy like google does Siri could have been as good as google assistant . Imo anyway
 
ISRMafia said:
I do agree google is a much better assistant but the way Apple treats privacy is blocking the way for Siri, If Apple wouldnt care at all about privacy like google does Siri could have been as good as google assistant . Imo anyway
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Much of what Siri gets wrong has nothing to do with personal data/privacy. As an example, try asking, "How old is Michael Phelps?" After Siri comes up with 55 years of age, try again with, "How old is the swimmer Michael Phelps?" After a second wrong answer, try "Search Google for how old is Michael Phelps?" and Google will give you the correct answer.
 
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Siri gets a lot of bad press, part of it is understandable because when that kind of tech fails it is really frustrating. However I do not think for one minute that Apple is sitting on their butts and not working on Siri. People who talk about Alexa and now Google Assistant often neglect the fact that Siri speaks a lot more languages than those services. So Amazon and Google might have passed Siri slightly in that area but Apple has pushed Siri more internationally. I suspect in the coming year Siri is going to get a major update and become a lot better. It was introduced over 5 years ago now, so there has probably been a lot of work happening behind closed doors.

As far as the Apple Watch goes, I think Siri has a bright future on there. It really is one of the best ways to interact with the watch. So if the Apple Watch sticks around expect Siri to stick around and improve little by little.

Since getting my Apple Watch last week I've become very bullish on the product. In a few years the Apple watch could replace the iPhone. Once they can put 4G on there and get good battery life it really blows the doors open for redefining the iPhone and maybe merging it with the iPad.
 
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I hope they create a method for connecting to various devices via Siri. As an example: when using AirPods and switch from phone to iPad I should be able to tell Siri to connect my AirPods to my I-Pad versus having to go into the device to make the switch.
 
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Volusia said:
I hope they create a method for connecting to various devices via Siri. As an example: when using AirPods and switch from phone to iPad I should be able to tell Siri to connect my AirPods to my I-Pad versus having to go into the device to make the switch.
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I have two Apple Watches, an iPad Mini 4 and an iPhone X and I totally agree that there needs to be a better way to switch between devices.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
Is there hope for Siri?

Depends on how seriously Apple takes this.
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There is No evidence supporting Apple does NOT take it seriously. I think your conflating Siri between other products. Siri actually works very well for the Apple Watch with dictation and feedback. Siri struggles at Times between other products. But some don’t realize, Siri is server based, it’s not iOS embedded. Experiences will vary using Siri.
 
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Relentless Power said:
There is No evidence supporting Apple does NOT take it seriously. I think your conflating Siri between other products. Siri actually works very well for the Apple Watch with dictation and feedback. Siri struggles at Times between other products. But some don’t realize, Siri is server based, it’s not iOS embedded. Experiences will vary using Siri.
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This is true but if you've ever use either Google Assistant or Amazon Echo devices, you'll realize that Siri is way behind. Siri is okay at understanding what words are coming out of my mouth, but the lack of integration with other products or when you compare what Google and Amazon can do, Siri isn't there yet. They might have been first out of the gate, but they have some catching up to do now. And yes, google and Alexa are both server based as well so it's really no excuse for a company with such vast resources. I think they recognize they need to catch up and in the next couple years I hope we'll see some vast improvements.... it really behooves them to do so if they want ease of integration into home kit devices and the "smart home" which is becoming more and more popular.
 
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squirrrl said:
This is true but if you've ever use either Google Assistant or Amazon Echo devices, you'll realize that Siri is way behind. Siri is okay at understanding what words are coming out of my mouth, but the lack of integration with other products or when you compare what Google and Amazon can do, Siri isn't there yet.
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As Someone who uses multiple artificial voice assistants, I agree that Google voice and Alexa are ahead in some respects over Siri. Siri struggles in two main areas, deciphering what the user saying and producing relevant search results based on the inquiry.

For basic in-house commands with Siri, it does fairly well for what it is with tasking on iPhone, HomePod, Apple Watch controls and AirPod controls. But anything beyond that, it sometimes can get complicated with Siri, which is an area for development.

If there was one suggestion for Apple to improve upon greatly over the course of iOS, it would be with Siri, because I do use it every single day tbrough multiple products. That said, I would rather have Siri than not.
 
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Relentless Power said:
As Someone who uses multiple artificial voice assistants, I agree that Google voice and Alexa are ahead in some respects over Siri. Siri struggles in two main areas, deciphering what the user saying and producing relevant search results based on the inquiry.

For basic in-house commands with Siri, it does fairly well for what it is with tasking on iPhone, HomePod, Apple Watch controls and AirPod controls. But anything beyond that, it sometimes can get complicated with Siri, which is an area for development.

If there was one suggestion for Apple to improve upon greatly over the course of iOS, it would be with Siri, because I do use it every single day tbrough multiple products. That said, I would rather have Siri than not.
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I would say that the usage of Siri for me is very basic, but also every day. I use it for reminders, setting alarm clocks and more - the contextual stuff really failed me a lot, so I kind of skipped.
 
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