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Audiosond

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I want a general filter that will go to blue light regards of which application and you are using. But as far as I know the iPhone only has certain brands who's you can download that will filter out blue light but not one single application that will filter out all blue lights for all application.
 

kis

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What purpose would this app serve. Is it a color blind thing?
No, it's not being able to sleep if you use unfiltered screens after, say, 9 p.m. for Android, you can just install an app and the problem is solved. For iOS: not so much. Either you install a physical filter, or you jailbreak the device.
 

C DM

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No, it's not being able to sleep if you use unfiltered screens after, say, 9 p.m. for Android, you can just install an app and the problem is solved. For iOS: not so much. Either you install a physical filter, or you jailbreak the device.
f.lux is basically that type of thing, but it's only for jailbroken devices. The closest thing that someone can do to help out with that type of thing on a stock iOS device is what's described at http://www.imore.com/dim-your-screen-further-control-center-allows-and-other-cool-ios-8-tricks.
 

Newtons Apple

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No, it's not being able to sleep if you use unfiltered screens after, say, 9 p.m. for Android, you can just install an app and the problem is solved. For iOS: not so much. Either you install a physical filter, or you jailbreak the device.

Ah, so it is the color temp that gets in the way of sleep.

I solved that by not using my phone after 9pm.
 

jldesutter83

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I think that blue light junk is a bunch of hog wash. I never have issues falling asleep after using my phone before bed. I usually play a couple hours of games before bed.
 

C DM

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I think that blue light junk is a bunch of hog wash. I never have issues falling asleep after using my phone before bed. I usually play a couple hours of games before bed.

Since you likely never been to space or will ever go there then clearly no one ever has it ever will. Makes sense, right?
 

C DM

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I'm not sure what the issue is here. Can't you just turn the phone brightness all the way down?
Doesn't do the same kind of things. One thing is brightness and another thing is color temperature.
 

meistervu

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Yes, I also heard about that blue light study. I did not find it credible in my case, so I never checked up on it.

There are so many of these studies with all kind of conclusions that if I believe in them all, I would cease to exist.
 

Small White Car

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I'm not sure what the issue is here. Can't you just turn the phone brightness all the way down?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/want-good-nights-sleep-dont-4865493

I think that blue light junk is a bunch of hog wash. I never have issues falling asleep after using my phone before bed. I usually play a couple hours of games before bed.

It's not about falling asleep. It's about the amount of REM you get while you're asleep. Have you been measuring your REM hours before and after you got a smart phone? Was there a big change?

Or should we just trust the scientists on this one?
 

C DM

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That was not the reasoning behind why I don't believe it. Just seems like people want something else to blame.

Or there's actual scientific evidence to back it all up and quite a few people are effected to one degree or another (even if it's far from the majority).

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Yes, I also heard about that blue light study. I did not find it credible in my case, so I never checked up on it.

There are so many of these studies with all kind of conclusions that if I believe in them all, I would cease to exist.

But you know there are also people who are actually affected by it. Who is to tell them that they aren't? What business is it if anyone else?
 

Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
I heard of f.lux and many people love using it and its one of their main reasons to JB their idevice.
Never tried it yet though.
I dont know about the physical or scientific evidence behind it but besides that does it make the screen look better or easier to see/read or something like that?
I don't seem to have any problem using my phone at night and I sleep fine.
 

meistervu

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/want-good-nights-sleep-dont-4865493



It's not about falling asleep. It's about the amount of REM you get while you're asleep. Have you been measuring your REM hours before and after you got a smart phone? Was there a big change?

Or should we just trust the scientists on this one?

Are there peer reviews on this study? What are the results.

I am sure it happened since we lived in caved. The moment we discover fire and make use of it, there was a bloke who thought that fire was the work of the devil and would point to the evidence of all the people getting burnt.

Every few years there is a study about how one should eat and when. Same for exercise, wine, and all sort of thing.

I am a skeptic.
 

jldesutter83

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Are there peer reviews on this study? What are the results.

I am sure it happened since we lived in caved. The moment we discover fire and make use of it, there was a bloke who thought that fire was the work of the devil and would point to the evidence of all the people getting burnt.

Every few years there is a study about how one should eat and when. Same for exercise, wine, and all sort of thing.

I am a skeptic.

I agree!
 

C DM

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Are there peer reviews on this study? What are the results.

I am sure it happened since we lived in caved. The moment we discover fire and make use of it, there was a bloke who thought that fire was the work of the devil and would point to the evidence of all the people getting burnt.

Every few years there is a study about how one should eat and when. Same for exercise, wine, and all sort of thing.

I am a skeptic.

That's all good and fine. In the end it doesn't really matter if you believe or question what any of this is or how real it is. For those who experience it or just understand it it makes no difference what you might believe or not.

Ultimately this discussion isn't even about what it is or why anyone should beieve or care about it, it's simply about the options that might be available for those who are affected or simply care about it on some level.
 

Small White Car

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Are there peer reviews on this study? What are the results.

I am sure it happened since we lived in caved. The moment we discover fire and make use of it, there was a bloke who thought that fire was the work of the devil and would point to the evidence of all the people getting burnt.

Every few years there is a study about how one should eat and when. Same for exercise, wine, and all sort of thing.

I am a skeptic.

The point is that the light from smartphones mimics the light from the sun. The question is not "are smartphones unhealthy" but rather "what are the effects of sleeping in the day instead of the night?"

We have been living with the sun for thousands of years, so no, this does not fall in the category of "people are scared of new technology."

The "technology" here is sunlight, essentially. So, yeah, I'd say it's been studied a fair amount. It even pre-dates that fire thing you mentioned.
 

meistervu

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The point is that the light from smartphones mimics the light from the sun. The question is not "are smartphones unhealthy" but rather "what are the effects of sleeping in the day instead of the night?"

We have been living with the sun for thousands of years, so no, this does not fall in the category of "people are scared of new technology."

The "technology" here is sunlight, essentially. So, yeah, I'd say it's been studied a fair amount. It even pre-dates that fire thing you mentioned.

My point wasn't about new technology, but rather about jumping to conclusion. Here is an absurd example for you: a friend of my in high school once said to me that there is no oxygen in hot water because if you put a fish in hot water it dies. You may laugh at his reasoning, but many scientific theories are like that. They got a lot of things right, but all it takes is one misstep to invalidate the whole theory.
 

C DM

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My point wasn't about new technology, but rather about jumping to conclusion. Here is an absurd example for you: a friend of my in high school once said to me that there is no oxygen in hot water because if you put a fish in hot water it dies. You may laugh at his reasoning, but many scientific theories are like that. They got a lot of things right, but all it takes is one misstep to invalidate the whole theory.
Yeah, just because there's a lot of over simplistic stuff out there doesn't mean that tons of valid things are somehow like that because of it. Simply questioning something, not being sure about it, not believing it, or pointing out how many other things might not have turned out to be right doesn't simply invalidate something or make it not real.

Not even sure why threads of this nature pointlessly turn into some sort of an inquisition which isn't even relevant. This isn't a discussion about how real something is, it's about someone looking for options to do something that people have been doing for some time now (whatever their reasons might be).
 

kis

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Yes, I also heard about that blue light study. I did not find it credible in my case, so I never checked up on it.



There are so many of these studies with all kind of conclusions that if I believe in them all, I would cease to exist.


Care to name some of them? Blue light reduces melatonin production, which offsets the deep-sleep phase by about an hour and a half. If you can sleep in every morning this won't affect you. If you, like most people, have to get up at the same (usually early) time in the morning, this will rob you of said amount of time of deep sleep and will cause problems. This isn't some sort of esoteric mumbo-jumbo, this has been established decades ago and has been confirmed by countless studies and sleep trials.
 

Newtons Apple

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WOAH! You just blew my mind! That's a wild idea!

DON'T use your iphone???????

I would think you are being sarcastic but then I saw you are from Chicogo. :p

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Lol. Common sense.

Maybe but I use my phone all the time and a little bit of blue light done not effect me getting to sleep. I guess some people are more susceptible to these things but it has never had that effect on me.
 
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