Is this a fair price?

paulwgraber

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Apple 15" MacBook Pro TouchBar 2.8GHz i7 16GB 256GB SSD MPTR2LL/A MPTU2LL/A 2017 model.

$1,700. Brand new sealed in the box..

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EEzycade

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I think it's more than a fair price, I think its a steal of a deal. Take into account the second gen butterfly keyboard, it has been known to have issues.
 

vemac575

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Definitely a fair price but having had a 2015 specked out quad and a 2017 specked out quad, I would rather save a few hundred bucks and get a mint but used 2015 with more space, as they are both very close in real world speed. I would also rather spend the extra few hundred on a refurb 6 core with double the SSD and same RAM config.

Fair price? Yep. Should you buy it? I wouldn't.
 

operagust

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vemac575 as you have used both models, did you notice a big difference in performance between the two models? I saw an open box offer for Macbook Pro 2015 MJLQ2LL/A ~ 1621$ compared with 1899$ from BH for MPTU2LL/A (2017 model)
My need is to run multiple VM machines in parallel.
 

vemac575

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vemac575 as you have used both models, did you notice a big difference in performance between the two models? I saw an open box offer for Macbook Pro 2015 MJLQ2LL/A ~ 1621$ compared with 1899$ from BH for MPTU2LL/A (2017 model)
My need is to run multiple VM machines in parallel.
If you're only saving 278, depending on spec, I would go for the 2017 simply because of the thunderbolt 3. Otherwise, there really isn't a massive difference. There IS a difference, but real world usage won't really show itself to you other than seconds in high intensity tasks.

The biggest factors are:
What you intend to use it for
When you will upgrade again
What spec you need
What you're using at your desk

Cut and dry, even if you look to save 200 bucks between a 2015 and 2017 similar spec MBPs, you probably will not notice a thing. I had both on a tripple monitor setup, running logoc pro x, connected to TB docks and all of the speakers/midi controller/interface galore and both were pretty much the same.

Most noticable difference will probably be read/write speads and temps. Still, cery small.

Hope I didn't miss anything and that this helps.
 

operagust

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If you're only saving 278, depending on spec, I would go for the 2017 simply because of the thunderbolt 3. Otherwise, there really isn't a massive difference. There IS a difference, but real world usage won't really show itself to you other than seconds in high intensity tasks.

The biggest factors are:
What you intend to use it for
When you will upgrade again
What spec you need
What you're using at your desk

Cut and dry, even if you look to save 200 bucks between a 2015 and 2017 similar spec MBPs, you probably will not notice a thing. I had both on a tripple monitor setup, running logoc pro x, connected to TB docks and all of the speakers/midi controller/interface galore and both were pretty much the same.

Most noticable difference will probably be read/write speads and temps. Still, cery small.

Hope I didn't miss anything and that this helps.
Thanks for your reply.
The configuration for 2017 is
  • 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 Quad-Core
  • 16GB of 2133 MHz RAM | 256GB SSD
The configuration for 2015 is
Intel Core i7 Quad Core Processor 2.2GHz; Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite; 16GB DDR3L-1600 Onboard RAM; 256GB Flash Storage

I am planning to use more for running VMs (running Virtual Box or Fusion creating a virtual lab with let's say 3 virtual machines running WS2016), Visual Studio 2017. I am a windows user guy, but also want to grasp the experience of using MacOS. I was looking online and I have the alternatives to buy Dell XPS/HP Spectre 360 or Lenovo C930 in this budget but a part of me is saying you should try the Macbook Pro.
 

puma1552

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Buying off ebay? Beware of the warranty, get the serial number and verify the coverage and AppleCare eligibility. Would really suck if you bought it from someone/somewhere off ebay that doesn't accept returns and it had an issue out of the box, warranty or not. In that case I would prefer to just return and rebuy but sometimes you can't when buying off ebay.
 
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_Kiki_

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Buying off ebay? Beware of the warranty, get the serial number and verify the coverage and AppleCare eligibility. Would really suck if you bought it from someone/somewhere off ebay that doesn't accept returns and it had an issue out of the box, warranty or not. In that case I would prefer to just return and rebuy but sometimes you can't when buying off ebay.
the seller policy doesn't matter, you can always return on eBay if item is not as described
 

puma1552

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the seller policy doesn't matter, you can always return on eBay if item is not as described
right, but opening a new sealed product and finding an issue wouldnt mean the product wasnt as described. was it new and sealed? yes, then you are going to have an uphil battle i would imagine.
 

_Kiki_

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right, but opening a new sealed product and finding an issue wouldnt mean the product wasnt as described. was it new and sealed? yes, then you are going to have an uphil battle i would imagine.
this a bad example, sealed box doesn't mean the item inside is free from any defects
 
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puma1552

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this a bad example, sealed box doesn't mean the item inside is free from any defects
That's exactly what I'm saying.

But the item WOULD be as described, because you received a new, sealed, unopened product just as the listing described.

Then you're screwed.
 

_Kiki_

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That's exactly what I'm saying.

But the item WOULD be as described, because you received a new, sealed, unopened product just as the listing described.

Then you're screwed.
wouldn't be, you still still missing point, warranty is a part of transaction, there is always possibility to return if you know how to do
 

operagust

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I have just bought the MBP 2017 15 Open Box Excellent from bestbuy with 2061$. Hopefully I will like it, anyway I have 15 days return policy.
  • 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 Quad-Core
  • 16GB of 2133 MHz RAM | 512GB SSD
 

vemac575

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I have just bought the MBP 2017 15 Open Box Excellent from bestbuy with 2061$. Hopefully I will like it, anyway I have 15 days return policy.
  • 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 Quad-Core
  • 16GB of 2133 MHz RAM | 512GB SSD
That is the better choice. Definitely not the 2015, considering the specs.
 

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