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Using any other finger besides the thumb would be annoying as it would take two hands. Which means your thumb would need to be set to home screen, being that you would use it to unlock the most.
 
Apple sold off the fingerprint sensor division of Authentec to DigitalPersona.

Makes me wonder if they are getting the touchscreen to do the sensing instead.

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DigitalPersona acquires sensor device business from AuthenTec/Upek

DigitalPersona, the well-established provider of optical fingerprint sensor components, has taken over the high-quality capacitive sensor device business from AuthenTec.

http://authentec.com/Products/TouchChips/SensorsandModules.aspx

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IF... and thats a big IF... they put a finger print scanner/reader on the new iPhone I think that it would work best (for right hand users) on the side of the phone, either mid-top or mid-bottom with the scanner small and horizontal. That way you could hold your phone like normal, swipe your thumb on the scanner and never have to move the phone away from you or hold it awkwardly to unlock it... Just a thought.
 
IF... and thats a big IF... they put a finger print scanner/reader on the new iPhone I think that it would work best (for right hand users) on the side of the phone, either mid-top or mid-bottom with the scanner small and horizontal. That way you could hold your phone like normal, swipe your thumb on the scanner and never have to move the phone away from you or hold it awkwardly to unlock it... Just a thought.

I don't think Apple would discriminate against us left handers ;) , plus, by placing it on the side of the phone and not embedded in the famous home button, it would lack the magic...the home button is something needing an upgrade. What's better than putting magic inside it?
 
I don't think Apple would discriminate against us left handers ;) , plus, by placing it on the side of the phone and not embedded in the famous home button, it would lack the magic...the home button is something needing an upgrade. What's better than putting magic inside it?

This is true and I definitely would't mind seeing a finger print scanner become integrated into the home button. However, other than integrating the scanner into the home button I don't think I would alter the home button much... it has a simple function and therefore should have a simple design.
 
I am guessing you will register quite a few fingers in case of a cut or lost hand or something.

I imagine it will be a redundant system. Kind of like Androids facial recognition. You can use facial recognition OR a password.

This would work well because then you could use a long complicated passlock it the event you can't use the finger that was scanned.

Personally for me a fingerprint scanner is Apple fixing a problem that doesn't exist. A 4 key pin is fine by me, I hope these resources are used somewhere else.
 
This would be a ridiculous fad that will get disabled on 70% of people's phones once they get bored with it.

Just the same as facial recognition, voice recognition type unlocks.

They need to be worried about updating their OS, not messing about with this nonsense.
 
This would be a ridiculous fad that will get disabled on 70% of people's phones once they get bored with it.

Just the same as facial recognition, voice recognition type unlocks.

They need to be worried about updating their OS, not messing about with this nonsense.

But apparently Paypal security chief would disagree with you there... http://m.tuaw.com/2013/05/13/paypal-security-chief-wants-more-fingerprints-fewer-passwords-i/
 
Just the same as facial recognition, voice recognition type unlocks.

Good point... Whatever happened with Android's facial recognition feature? It was a big deal when 4.1 (?) was released, but nobody ever really talked about it after that. Another pointless feature, I guess?
 
This will show up on Android way before it appears on iOS. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing for iOS....

Well, both steal ideas from each other. Apple took the Notification Center and SMS Replies, didn't they.
 
Apple sold off the fingerprint sensor division of Authentec to DigitalPersona.

Makes me wonder if they are getting the touchscreen to do the sensing instead.

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DigitalPersona acquires sensor device business from AuthenTec/Upek

DigitalPersona, the well-established provider of optical fingerprint sensor components, has taken over the high-quality capacitive sensor device business from AuthenTec.

http://authentec.com/Products/TouchChips/SensorsandModules.aspx

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I believe it's actually the opposite.. Apple only KEPT the fingerprint sensor division & sold off their embedded systems division. The big use on iPad would be multiuser support.. currently not available on iOS OR Android. On iPhone it would be not typing in your four digit pin 100+ times per day, every time you get a notification. The commerce aspects, I suspect will take a few iterations to fully blossom.
 
Since my personal phone also doubles as an enterprise device I'm subject to my company's security policies. I'm wondering how this would integrate with the present complex password and what, if any, changes would be required on the enterprise side to utilize this?
 
Since my personal phone also doubles as an enterprise device I'm subject to my company's security policies. I'm wondering how this would integrate with the present complex password and what, if any, changes would be required on the enterprise side to utilize this?

I would think that a fingerprint would suffice for a complex password or they could require the use of the fingerprint and a simple 4 digit passcode. It would depend on how Apple implements the fingerprint sensor and code into iOS and of course your company's security policy once they review everything.
 
Personally for me a fingerprint scanner is Apple fixing a problem that doesn't exist. A 4 key pin is fine by me, I hope these resources are used somewhere else.
Most corporate and government users must type in a long alphanumeric password on top of the 4-digit pin every time they want to use their iPhone. It gets old fast, believe me.

Since my personal phone also doubles as an enterprise device I'm subject to my company's security policies. I'm wondering how this would integrate with the present complex password and what, if any, changes would be required on the enterprise side to utilize this?
Fingerprint scanning is unnecessary as an unlock mechanism for consumers. Rather, it should:

  1. eliminate the long alphanumeric passwords currently required by government and corporate networks (on top of the standard unlock code), significantly improving usability;

  2. provide secure authentication for mobile payments, including purchases from the Apple Store, as well as wireless payments made to vendors using near field communication or Bluetooth;

  3. simplify web login/password entry for the web, whereby a fingerprint scan would populate the user's login information from a secure password application in Safari;

  4. simplify (eliminate) login/password entry for third-party iOS7-compatible applications, by allowing third-party developers to substitute fingerprints for passwords;

  5. provide seamless multi-user support, which would benefit home users, as well as corporations and governments, that share one device (e.g., iPad, future Macbooks) among multiple users.
For those concerned about privacy, keep in mind that your fingerprint and associated biometric data would be used to generate a unique, Apple-proprietary digital decryption key (I.e., a long string of 1s and 0s) that is probably specific/unique to your device. Your actual fingerprint would not be stored on the device, and no application or server would get your fingerprint. No third-party application would be able to see or access the fingerprint reader, much less the Apple-generated key, directly. Apple could change how the fingerprint key is calculated in a future iOS release.
 
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Good point... Whatever happened with Android's facial recognition feature? It was a big deal when 4.1 (?) was released, but nobody ever really talked about it after that. Another pointless feature, I guess?

I don't understand this face recognition feature!!
Wouldn't the phone recognise a "photo" of a phone owner placed on the fron of the camera and unlock the phone on the wrong hands?

Fingerprint on the other hand.... unless you cut it off!!

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Well, both steal ideas from each other. Apple took the Notification Center and SMS Replies, didn't they.

It was not Google the inveted of Notification centre. Think back....
 
This would be a ridiculous fad that will get disabled on 70% of people's phones once they get bored with it.

Just the same as facial recognition, voice recognition type unlocks.

They need to be worried about updating their OS, not messing about with this nonsense.

yep, there is no need of fingerprint scanners on phones, face recognition is enough.
 
yep, there is no need of fingerprint scanners on phones, face recognition is enough.
Ehh? Face recognition is worthless. You can defeat the face recognition on current devices with a photo. That's not a technology you want protecting your credit cards or bank accounts.
 
I think the utility of the fingerprint scanner will extend beyond the lock screen. I think that IF the fingerprint scanner is integrated (Maybe even within a new kind of home button), the real utility would be if they finally bring Keychain onto the iPhone/iPad. Imagine never having to type a stored login/password into websites on mobile safari?

I also think that given their push into enterprise and competition from samsung's Knox, they would be able to gain a big time stronghold on the market if they can get it to work right.

Then again this might (probably will) be one of the many high profile rumors that never pans out. Personally I'd like to see them add that haptics technology from senseg to make individual keys on the keyboard have texture.
 
I am really hoping this will be coming on the next generation iPhone 5S.. This will shut all the naysayers about Apple not being innovative anymore

YouTube: video

How is doing something that somebody else is already doing "innovative"?

Fingerprint security has been around for years on laptops and at least 2 years on mobile phones.
 
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yep, i hope that the iphone 5S scans the fingerprint through screen, that'd be awesome.

They could keep the 'slide to unlock', and make the screen read the print of whatever digit is doing the sliding, as it's sliding.

Add in an orientation switch, so righties can swipe left to right and lefties could swipe right to left.

Anyone other than the owner of the phone would be sliding and swiping furiously yet the phone would stoically remain locked for them. :cool:
 
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