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Is this illegal?
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i don't see a problem with it, but as mentioned earlier, if its and angled parking setup, not the wisest of ideas.
I'll be rude if you like. Starting a thread as dumb as this must be illegal.
Just messing. The only thing I can think of that makes you think it may be illegal is the fact you are crossing a solid white line? If thats the case then how the heck would you deal with a stop sign?
Sit in the car screaming... Or maybe thats just me...
Sit in the car screaming... Or maybe thats just me...
You have reclining seats too?
it is not hard. All that could happen is if a cop is around they write you a ticket. not hard to enforce. cutting though a parking lot is against the law. Driving to fast in a parking lot is against the law. All things that will get you ticketed. More than likely with something like reckless endangerment.
On my schools campus (Southern Illinois University Carbondale) you can get a ticket for pulling through spots in parking lots, or for backing into spots. Since it is 'private property' and they have their own police force they make the rules.
That's terrible logic and morality.
I don't believe it's illegal, as the general rule of parking lots is that you must yield to pedestrians, stay on your side of the road, etc. If the property owner really doesn't want you doing it, the easiest way to achieve that result would be to put up a concrete barrier between you and the space ahead of you (which many do use).
If SIU is a state institution (I honestly can't recall), it's not private property and they're not "their own police force," they would be sworn officers per Illinois' penal code.
If it's a private school, then that's another story altogether.
That's not true. Berkeley is a public school, but the campus police are a separate organization that do not serve the city of Berkeley.
I certainly don't treat it as an illegal act, but I did do this maneuver upon pulling into the parking lot after I had completed my drivers road test. He commented on it, by saying "It is not a driving lane. The only reason your car should enter a marked parking space, is to park your car in it, not to drive through"
He didn't say it was illegal though. And I passed my drivers test with flying colours!
He didn't say it was illegal though. And I passed my drivers test with flying colours!
Actually a lot of parking lots post signs stating that all traffic laws are enforceable on them.
At least around here in Cali they do.
They are usually small, but by each entrance to the parking lot.
If you are so notified, then the police can ticket normal traffic offenses in the parking lot.
Just to reiterate what some others have already said; It depends what the law says wherever the parking lot is.
Where I come from, Jersey, it would not be illegal as far as the legislator were concerned as a parking lot is not the public highway. Not only could the Police do nothing about this, they wouldn't and couldn't do anything about speeding, reckless driving or smashing into other vehicles (unless it were deliberate and the owners wanted to press charges) the only thing they could get involved with would be DUI, and that's specifically written into law to enable them to stop drunk drivers in parking lots of bars etc. from leaving onto the highway.
However, if the landowner chooses to erect suitable signs to advise any visitor to his property, he can make any rules up about the terms under which they do and can state that they'll be charged/clamped/towed for whatever reason within reason.
Where I come from, Jersey, it would not be illegal as far as the legislator were concerned as a parking lot is not the public highway. Not only could the Police do nothing about this, they wouldn't and couldn't do anything about speeding, reckless driving or smashing into other vehicles (unless it were deliberate and the owners wanted to press charges) the only thing they could get involved with would be DUI, and that's specifically written into law to enable them to stop drunk drivers in parking lots of bars etc. from leaving onto the highway.
However, if the landowner chooses to erect suitable signs to advise any visitor to his property, he can make any rules up about the terms under which they do and can state that they'll be charged/clamped/towed for whatever reason within reason.
Reread my post, carefully
. Regardless of what else goes on at PRB (People's Republic of Berkeley), the officers there are sworn peace officers, specifically under 830.2 PC, in California. As has been noted, they have jurisdiction statewide.My point was, and it varies from state to state, is that if it's a publicly-funded (as in state) institution, the grounds are public, not private, property, and the ordinances of the state and institution are enforceable by either local police or campus police. The campus police may or may not be sworn peace officers in their respective state, but are throughout California as members of the UCPD. K-12, CC and non-UC officers are under a different statute (832.2).
We now return to our regularly scheduled topic.
Reread my post, carefully
My point was, and it varies from state to state, is that if it's a publicly-funded (as in state) institution, the grounds are public, not private, property, and the ordinances of the state and institution are enforceable by either local police or campus police. The campus police may or may not be sworn peace officers in their respective state, but are throughout California as members of the UCPD. K-12, CC and non-UC officers are under a different statute (832.2).
We now return to our regularly scheduled topic.
Huh...that's interesting. So why bother setting up two competing police forces? Wouldn't it be easier to simply dedicate x number of officers to a campus?
My dad was hit by an illegal immigrant while driving his truck through a parking lot. The police could not do a thing because it happened in a private lot. The other guy had no license, not driving a registered vehicle, and had no insurance. He hit my dad's truck so hard the front fender was pushed into the tire so hard the wheel wouldn't even rotate with the 454 trying to push the truck. He had to pull out his jack and slowly crank the dent out that way enough to drive home.
Also, I was told that anywhere there is a traffic control device, sign, etc. the police have jurisdiction. That would include lots I believe, but only the places in the lots that have a stop sign. The actual stalls themselves they don't. I may be wrong, but I believe that's what my friend was saying.
Your Dad could've still sued the guy though.
Doesn't sound right to me, but it may be so in the US. It's certainly NOT the case in the UK. The Police can't do a thing on private land with regards to road traffic law, unless it's DUI.
Yes local police have power on college campus's just general they will not touch them unless the campus police call them.
The reason it is set up that way it is allows college to have control over the police for direct control of it needs. It does not have to compete with the city cover it. Plus the city does not want to deal with having to cover campus police because they do not get any real extra money off of it. Instead it would require for example my school another 30-40+ officers just to cover the campus. The college having its own dedicated force is more so needs are met in a much more timely fashion.
If it lets say the city police doing it. The City police would not really have to listen to anything the college says because it isn't he city not the college signing their paychecks.
Lastly on most college campus the campus police are worn peace officers and have all the power there off.
Most large universities have a dedicated police department with full legal authority as mentioned earlier in this thread. They are comparable to a municipal police department, but, as also mentioned, the area police have jurisdiction over campus as well.
There are a number of ways universities are self-sufficient. Many run their own bus systems. My university has its own power plant and infrastructure.
To answer the OP, it is not against the law, but there may be rules established by other entities (i.e. property owners) prohibiting such behavior.
How about this... many lots near me have stops at the end of each row of parking. But, instead of an actual stop sign, they have the word stop painted on the ground. It's obvious that they expect you to stop before pulling out or swinging around to the next row. It's also very obvious when there's nobody coming especially at such a slow speed in such a wide open area. It seems to be about a 50/50 split between people who stop no matter what and people who stop if someone is coming but otherwise roll right through at speed (about 10-15 mph). I have no comment on which group I fall into.
Does the word stop painted on the ground function the same way legally as a stop sign?
Does the word stop painted on the ground function the same way legally as a stop sign?
CalBoy is sorta right... At least for us at SIU... SIU officers can't respond to off campus calls and local and state authorities don't come on to campus unless absolutely necessary.