is thunderbolt dead!!

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by kiteflyer, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. kiteflyer macrumors newbie

    Apr 18, 2005
    I just read at that a new USB 3 standard will be implemented next year that is 10 times more powerful than thunderbolt. It is also backwards compatible with older USB stuff. Sounds pretty good if true.

  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    The article is talking about electrical power, not speed of data transfer. Thunderbolt is far from dead.
  3. nuckinfutz macrumors 603


    Jul 3, 2002
    Middle Earth
    It doesn't really matter

    Dec 21st 2012 is Judgment Day. We're all doomed!

    Go Thunderbolt!
  4. kiteflyer thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 18, 2005
  5. misterneums macrumors 6502

    Nov 2, 2009
    For some reason, I couldn't stop myself from giggling uncontrollably from your post. In my mind I pictured the OP's message as a high pitched whine and your response as one of those cool and collected deep voices...

    Sorry if I offended anyone.
  6. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    I haven't been able to make a high-pitched whine since before puberty.... and I can't even remember back that far! :D
  7. VMMan macrumors 6502a

    Mar 29, 2009
    I do get some blank looks from colleagues when I mention how great Macs are with Thunderbolt and mention that except for some RAID drives, a monitor, and a cable there's nothing really for it yet.

    At this rate, I'll probably be shopping for the next MBA before many Thunderbolt devices come out.
  8. RobQuads macrumors regular

    Jul 11, 2010
    It will never be dead but IMO its never going to be that huge success. USB3 is all over the market already, USB3 memory sticks, USB3 hard drives, USB3 caddies for people to put thier own hard drives in. Good %age of new laptops coming with USB3.....

    Thunderbolt.....a couple really expensive storage units.. great progress for 6 months since the first Macbook with it.
  9. iphonsteve4ajob macrumors regular

    Aug 6, 2011
    Powerful as in speed?? Not a chance. Thunderbolt is 10Gbps vs USB 3.0 which is around 5Gbps. Also TB is bidirectional - 10Gbps upstream and downstream simultaneously. This iteration is also only the first generation of TB, developed for data transfer using copper wiring. The technology was originally developed utilizing fiber optics. Let's just say its got a ways to go before reaching its full potential.
  10. Des Zac macrumors regular

    Jul 20, 2011
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    Isn't Thunderbolt basically what Apple is trying to replace firewire with? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    getyup macrumors 6502

    Jul 2, 2011
    There's no way thunderbolt is going to gain anywhere near the momentum USB3 has and will continue to have. Just like firewire, it's a secondary technology that will always be more expensive and less widely used than USB 3. Unfortunate Apple doesn't at least give us the ability to have USB 3 if we WANT it. So annoying. $80 hard drive or $200 hard drive that's not even out yet. Just like the old days of firewire vs usb 2.0...
  12. clyde2801 macrumors 601


    Mar 6, 2008
    In the land of no hills and red dirt.
    It's not just apple, but intel behind it. We'll have to see who else adopts it and more importantly, what accessories come out. I still think we need to give our larcenous, patent scoffin' friends in the People's Republic some time to get their hands on some stuff and reverse engineer it....then we might see some reasonably priced stuff on flea-bay.

    And it's not has to be alive before it can be dead. Only time will tell if it turns out to be stillborn.
  13. steve dave macrumors 6502a

    Mar 29, 2010
    My feeling is that it will never really amount to anything. I know it is early but when you look at it now and there is only a $1000 hard drive and a $1000 monitor that support it. I find it hard to have a good feeling about it.
  14. OSMac macrumors 65816

    Jun 14, 2010
  15. maril1111 macrumors 68000


    Mar 14, 2010
    Maybe although I would like a TB>esata adapter more :D, in connection with the hub that is supposedly in development... one can dream
  16. stevensr123 macrumors 6502

    Apr 22, 2010
    Why didn't they make the thunderbolt porn the same as a usb? thus being backward compatibly meaning win-win situation for the consumer?

    was it not possible? or did the creators of usb block it from happening?

    anyway on thunderbolt, it could go either way, the technology is definitely the best at the moment, but sometimes being best does not always win.

    However i would love it to succeed, "one port to rule them all"
  17. OllyW Moderator


    Staff Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    The Black Country, England
    That's one way to make it more popular. :D
  18. maril1111 macrumors 68000


    Mar 14, 2010
    Haha idk if you did this on purpose but thunderbolt porn might cum later this year.:cool:
  19. stevensr123 macrumors 6502

    Apr 22, 2010
    Exactly :cool:

    "hi love wanna see my thunderbolt"

    "sorry it's not compatible at this moment"
  20. ThomasBoss macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2011
  21. newdeal macrumors 68020

    Oct 21, 2009

    thunderbolt is dead. If they put it on ipods that is about the best we can hope for at this time because non apple companies won't be supporting it just like they didn't really support firewire
  22. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    That's what Sony did with the Vaio Z. Apple and Intel said that they were asked by the USB Foundation not to use the USB port for a non-USB format, so they went with the Mini DisplayPort.
  23. stevensr123 macrumors 6502

    Apr 22, 2010
    Wait so the Sony has lightpeak that is USB port compatible?
  24. urkel macrumors 68030

    Nov 3, 2008
    Im fine with waiting for Thunderbolt and all, but how much would it have hurt Apple if they also gave us USB3? I own 2 USB3 drives despite not owning any machine that can take advantage of it so the omission of an existing standard isnt easy to swallow because USB3 doesnt change the price of existing peripherals but Thunderbolt will probably come with a huge markup that is unnecessary for the consumer.
  25. mac jones macrumors 68040

    Apr 6, 2006
    I don't really know anything, but isn't like Thunderbolt very different from USB3?

    I thought that it was also for displays, and networking; a variety of things in one port, so that eventually they will just have one port.

    I don't know.

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