only the latest intel macs are compatible with mac os Ventura. So, do you think Mac Os Ventura will be the last mac os for intel macs, even if they will get security updates? The transition should be complete in 2023 with mac pro and mac mini pro.
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Is Ventura the last intel Mac Os ?
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Ventura supports older models than the most recent/latest Intel Macs. For example, look at the MacBook Pro 15 inch. Ventura supports the 2017, 2018, and 2019 models. And for the iMac 27 inch, the 2017, 2019, and 2020 models are supported. I think they will remain supported for at least another 4 years.
maybe yes, maybe no. we can only guess (apple never tells us anything until the moment it reveals everything)...
It seems unlikely though with Apple still selling the 2019 Mac Pro for mega-$. I'd guess one or two more OS versions.
there are already a lot of things in Ventura that are only accessible to Apple silicon... They won't be doing this for very long from my point of view. why Mac Pro 2019 (already old) which should not sell much won't be closed with ventura and RDNA2 gpus ?
How long does Apple support macOS?
Unofficially, each major version of macOS gets a year’s full support, with bug and security fixes, then 2 years of security updates. Is that how it works?
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The Mac Pro is still Intel so it's highly unlikely impossible will abandon the Intel codebase altogether until at least 2-3 years after the stopped selling the last Intel-based Mac.
If the PPC-to-Intel transition taught us anything, fat binaries didn't begin to disappear for many, many years. Even my then-new 12" PB G4 ran everything just fine for several years, long after I switched to Intel. Candidly, I remember the online kvetching about Snow Leopard being 100% Intel-only yet Leopard (Universal) kept getting updates for about two full years after release.
If the PPC-to-Intel transition taught us anything, fat binaries didn't begin to disappear for many, many years. Even my then-new 12" PB G4 ran everything just fine for several years, long after I switched to Intel. Candidly, I remember the online kvetching about Snow Leopard being 100% Intel-only yet Leopard (Universal) kept getting updates for about two full years after release.
Companies have been writing native Apple silicon apps at a much slower rate than anyone had expected so I think Intel will be around for at least a few years.
If you want to look at history for a frame of reference, Apple announced their transition to Intel in 2006, which was while Tiger (10.4.4) was still around in January of 2006. The final version of Apple’s operating system that supported PowerPC was Leopard (10.5), which came out in October 2007.
Rosetta kept shipping in Apple operating systems until 2012, allowing PowerPC apps to run on Intel Macs.
So assuming Apple followed this same plan exactly (which I wouldn’t), we’d see:
1. Apple announces transition to Arm in May 2020
2. The last version of macOS supporting Intel chips will be released 1 year after Apple has fully transitioned their lineup. I expect that they’ll stop selling Intel Macs by the end of 2023 and 2024 will see the last release that supports them.
3. Security updates for Intel Mac will continue until 2026 (though Apple may extend this depending on severity/market penetration)
4. Rosetta 2 will be removed from macOS in 2028, 5 years after Apple stopped selling an Intel machine.
So Intel Mac owners have effectively until 2026 and app developers have until 2028 if Apple follows their previous game plan exactly.
The ”good” (and it really depends on your use case whether you think this is “good”) news is that if you recently bought or are contemplating buying an Intel Mac is that Microsoft Windows will likely support your machine until the sun’s core is a cold, dead sphere. Of course, you may want to upgrade before then to an Apple Silicon based Mac before then, but that’s your call. 😉
Rosetta kept shipping in Apple operating systems until 2012, allowing PowerPC apps to run on Intel Macs.
So assuming Apple followed this same plan exactly (which I wouldn’t), we’d see:
1. Apple announces transition to Arm in May 2020
2. The last version of macOS supporting Intel chips will be released 1 year after Apple has fully transitioned their lineup. I expect that they’ll stop selling Intel Macs by the end of 2023 and 2024 will see the last release that supports them.
3. Security updates for Intel Mac will continue until 2026 (though Apple may extend this depending on severity/market penetration)
4. Rosetta 2 will be removed from macOS in 2028, 5 years after Apple stopped selling an Intel machine.
So Intel Mac owners have effectively until 2026 and app developers have until 2028 if Apple follows their previous game plan exactly.
The ”good” (and it really depends on your use case whether you think this is “good”) news is that if you recently bought or are contemplating buying an Intel Mac is that Microsoft Windows will likely support your machine until the sun’s core is a cold, dead sphere. Of course, you may want to upgrade before then to an Apple Silicon based Mac before then, but that’s your call. 😉
An alternative view is that Snow Leopard, the first version that didn't run on PowerPC, was released 2009: 3 years after the 2005 G5 MacPro was discontinued in 2006. That lines up with with 2013 MacPro which was dropped from Ventura 2022 3 years after it was discontinued in 2019.
I'm sure the original plan was to have all intel models phased out by 2022 and require Apple Silicon in MacOS 15(2025), but with the transition delayed into 2023 I think it plausible Intel support will be extended into 2025 with Apple Silicon not mandatory until OS 16 (2026).
If Apple follows their previous game plan:
I'm sure the original plan was to have all intel models phased out by 2022 and require Apple Silicon in MacOS 15(2025), but with the transition delayed into 2023 I think it plausible Intel support will be extended into 2025 with Apple Silicon not mandatory until OS 16 (2026).
If Apple follows their previous game plan:
- 2023 - No requirement changes. Still supporting 2017 21.5" iMac, last sold 2021.
- 2024 - Drops half remaining Intel models.
- 2025 - Remaining Intel probably still supported thanks to transition delays... but don't bet too much on this.
- 2026 - Apple silicon required.
- mid2027 or mid2028 - Security updates for Intel end (Catalina's last security update: Mid 2022)
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