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m0sher

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So my question to the community :

Are burn in images from wallpaper on our home screen possible on the X from regular use?

1st OLED screen here and I’ve read about burn in from stagnant images that are kept up and screen ON for long periods of time like apps.

I like my screen to stay on a couple of mins before turning off when I stop using it and we can go up to 5 mins.

Just curious if it’s any concern should we have wallpaper on home screen that have images like very bright stars or bright streaks of light of any kind in the wallpaper, Should I be concerned it can ‘burn in’ if I don’t change my wallpaper often, with the images in the same spot for a year or two with regular use?

Has previous android users or anyone heard from people with these types of OLED displays complaining about things like spots or dots burned in on their screen that were caused from a wallpaper of space, as example shown at top of thread?

Just not wanting to learn the hard way and I’m sure we are all on board with precaution with our X’s.
 
Apple themselves say it's possible, yes. They have a support document about it.

That said, it requires a long contiguous exposure to become an issue. Like 2 hours without any change at all might cause you issues.

5 minutes at a time shouldn't.
 
You will get uneven wear on any OLED if you display the same image on them all the time, as the pixels are being stressed at different rates. However, I'm betting you will be fine when talking minutes at a time, and it will take years and years for such an effect to become permanent.

I get image retention on my OLED TV which goes in seconds, if it happens at all, so I'm guessing the X would be the same if displaying bright images for an extended period of time.
 
You will get uneven wear on any OLED if you display the same image on them all the time, as the pixels are being stressed at different rates. However, I'm betting you will be fine when talking minutes at a time, and it will take years and years for such an effect to become permanent.

I get image retention on my OLED TV which goes in seconds, if it happens at all, so I'm guessing the X would be the same if displaying bright images for an extended period of time.

This is not true. OLED burn in happens within a couple of years, sometimes even in months. There have been many such reports on flagship android devices. iPhone X is new in that sense and it remains to be seen how burn in wears the screen out over time.

The use case of TVs is different. The screen on a TV constantly updates but that’s not the case for smartphones.
 
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So my question to the community :

Are burn in images from wallpaper on our home screen possible on the X from regular use?

1st OLED screen here and I’ve read about burn in from stagnant images that are kept up and screen ON for long periods of time like apps.

I like my screen to stay on a couple of mins before turning off when I stop using it and we can go up to 5 mins.

Just curious if it’s any concern should we have wallpaper on home screen that have images like very bright stars or bright streaks of light of any kind in the wallpaper, Should I be concerned it can ‘burn in’ if I don’t change my wallpaper often, with the images in the same spot for a year or two with regular use?

Has previous android users or anyone heard from people with these types of OLED displays complaining about things like spots or dots burned in on their screen that were caused from a wallpaper of space, as example shown at top of thread?

Just not wanting to learn the hard way and I’m sure we are all on board with precaution with our X’s.

Here is An article Apple explains more about “Burn In” when the iPhone X was released:

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/03/iphone-x-display-screen-burn-in-normal/amp/
 
This is not true. OLED burn in happens within a couple of years, sometimes even in months. There have been many such reports on flagship android devices. iPhone X is new in that sense and it remains to be seen how burn in wears the screen out over time.

The use case of TVs is different. The screen on a TV constantly updates but that’s not the case for smartphones.

I guess it depends how you use your phone. Personally, mine stays on the wallpaper/homescreen for seconds, until I load an app etc, so the display is constantly mixing up the content. I can't see why you would leave your wallpaper on for any significant amount of time. If anything, watching a film with 2.35:1 borders on an OLED TV would lead to more chance of uneven wear, you would think.

You are right though to suggest we are guessing at this point, in regard the X's screen alone. My OLED TV has no burn-in after two years of use though, for what it is worth.
 
I guess it depends how you use your phone. Personally, mine stays on the wallpaper/homescreen for seconds, until I load an app etc, so the display is constantly mixing up the content. I can't see why you would leave your wallpaper on for any significant amount of time. If anything, watching a film with 2.35:1 borders on an OLED TV would lead to more chance of uneven wear, you would think.


I agree with all aside from the last bit. The black borders would leave to no strain at all, since the colour "black" on an OLED panel, is literally just "off" for those pixels, so it leads to no more strain in the black areas than if the TV was off
 
I agree with all aside from the last bit. The black borders would leave to no strain at all, since the colour "black" on an OLED panel, is literally just "off" for those pixels, so it leads to no more strain in the black areas than if the TV was off

It's true, but you would think it would have a reverse negative effect eg, if you are constantly only using the middle part of the panel, then those pixels would wear and the black bars (off pixels) wouldn't, so if you suddenly, out of the blue, started watching full screen material, you would see brighter patches at the top and bottom of the screen.

Anyway, that is TVs and the use differs of course to a mobile. I've basically treated mine as I would a plasma display, a tech far more prone to burn-in and IR. OLEDs aren't as 'fragile' as plasmas, but it has served me well thus far with my OLED. Burn-in is still a long term concern though, but I tend to buy a new display every 3 years or so, so not a major one for me.
 
It's true, but you would think it would have a reverse negative effect eg, if you are constantly only using the middle part of the panel, then those pixels would wear and the black bars (off pixels) wouldn't, so if you suddenly, out of the blue, started watching full screen material, you would see brighter patches at the top and bottom of the screen.


Oh that's what you meant. In that case, I retract my argument - you have a point
 
Even with Samsung’s S8/Note 8 displays in stores, I never see any type of burn in. Granted those displays are dynamic and the demo loops change randomly with different patterns.
 
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So my question to the community :

Are burn in images from wallpaper on our home screen possible on the X from regular use?

1st OLED screen here and I’ve read about burn in from stagnant images that are kept up and screen ON for long periods of time like apps.

I like my screen to stay on a couple of mins before turning off when I stop using it and we can go up to 5 mins.

Just curious if it’s any concern should we have wallpaper on home screen that have images like very bright stars or bright streaks of light of any kind in the wallpaper, Should I be concerned it can ‘burn in’ if I don’t change my wallpaper often, with the images in the same spot for a year or two with regular use?

Has previous android users or anyone heard from people with these types of OLED displays complaining about things like spots or dots burned in on their screen that were caused from a wallpaper of space, as example shown at top of thread?

Just not wanting to learn the hard way and I’m sure we are all on board with precaution with our X’s.
Where did you get that wallpaper
 
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