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Everyone says the name on long island...like the L.I.E. (long island expressway) or the northern state parkway.
Long islanders don't say 495 when referring to the L.I.E. Although we do give our main roads abbreviations.. like deer park ave. is 'D.P.A' and the L.I.E.
The only major roads we use the numbers are (at least in my part of long island) are 347 and 110.
I'm sure its in some billy joel song :p
 
Public highways get names:

The Hume Highway
The Princes Highway
The Sturt Highway
The Stuart Highway etc.

Toll roads get numbers:

M5, M7, M4, M2 etc.
 
When I'm back in the Midwest, or I'm talking about the Midwest, I just use the number. When I'm in LA, or I'm talking about LA, I put 'the' in front of the number. Go figure.

And the names like Hollywood Freeway or Santa Monica Free is effing crap because if you don't know the area then the names are useless. At least they've started putting directions (NSEW) on the signs now.


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This is a very interesting discovery. I was at work the other day in Atlanta with some people who are here from LA. When getting directions, they kept saying "OK, so do we take the 75 or the 85?" I, knowing what they were getting at, was able to respond. But other just looked at them like "what are you talking about?" No one in Atlanta, or the south for that matter, says anything other than "75 or "85" (that I've heard). The "the-" thing is definitely a California thing.
 
Here in Portland, OR we have two major Interstates nearby - I-5 and I-84.

Though I certainly can't speak for everyone living here, I (and others I know) usually refer to I-5 as such, but I-84 is just 84.
 
Funny thing about parkways that I just noticed... In SoCal (esp. Orange Co.) we have parkways too, but the label "parkway" is really just a fancier way of saying "boulevard" or "avenue". So it doesn't get a "the" like it would on the east coast - you'd just say "take Barranca Pkwy, turn right on Culver (Dr), then left on Alton (Pkwy).
 
I'm driving for CRST. They paid for CR England to train us though, which was a little weird, but it worked out pretty well. Had to sign my soul away for 8 months for the "free" training but at least it was nothing out-of-pocket, because I had hardly anything in them, lol.

Another thing I'm gonna have to get used to is exit numbers. Being from CA, I've never used them in my life, but I've gotta say, the whole mile/exit system makes a lot of sense when you really look at it. So does the metric system, but I don't see the US going metric anytime soon. :p

I think you'll eventually find that California does a lot of weird/stupid things when compared to the rest of the country, especially in the trucking industry. ;)

When the 34-restart came into effect they didn't want to honor it and were shutting drivers down if they had used it in the last 7 days. they finally decided it was a good rule when the feds threatened to pull their highway funding. They are kinda funny like that.

How do you like CRST so far? Trucking in general?
 
Originally from Northern California (the "real" Northern California, not the Bay Area), and I refer to the highways without "the": 5, 299, 101, and 1.

Edit: 299 = "two-ninety-nine" and 101 = "one-oh-one".
 
Oddly enough, we do have one expressway: the Corona-Pomona Expressway (CA 71). I don't exactly know why it's the lone expressway in the land of freeways, but it probably has something to do with it not being entirely a freeway, since in certain parts it's one lane in each direction and it has a regular street intersection with Mission Blvd. Nevertheless, we still just call it the 71.

Only a fellow road geek would know this, but part of SR 79 is signed as the "Ramona Expressway" for some reason. That one is really puzzling, since it's really just a highway with no grade separations. One thing to remember is that the Socal freeway system was originally intended to be even bigger than what was built. There were supposed to be freeways running through Beverly Hills, down Beach Blvd, down La Cienega, etc. That's why there are so many state highways that are just regular streets. They were numbered that way to be freeways, but for various reasons they were never rebuilt as freeways.



Perhaps this is my perception of the very area I was born and raised in, but it is my perception to have. ;)

It is just your perception. If you hadn't been raised to hate Socal, your parents would have had to move to Nevada or something. :p



I think you'll eventually find that California does a lot of weird/stupid things when compared to the rest of the country, especially in the trucking industry. ;)

On the other hand, we finally started posting exit numbers on our signs. Sometime before you die, they might all have numbers on them!

Another reason that most people don't use the official names (like "San Diego Freeway") or "I-xx" is that many of them are confusing and don't exactly correspond to numbers. Examples:

- The names often only apply to a segment of a numbered freeway, so you have to know which segment is named what in order to know where it is. Interstate 10 is called the Santa Monica Freeway between the beach and downtown LA. In the short East LA segment where it's the same road as Interstate 5, it's the "Golden State Freeway". East of that it's the "San Bernardino Freeway." Similarly, the 91 is variously called the Gardena Freeway, Artesia Freeway, and Riverside Freeway. Way too complicated. Just use the number.

- Don't get me started on the various places that have dedicated a freeway to someone, but no one ever uses the name. Part of the 10 is the "Rosa Parks Freeway", but no one calls it that. And no one calls the 105 the "Glenn Anderson Freeway". Ever.

- In some places (for example, the 210), it's confusing to use "I-210" because only part of the 210 is an interstate and the rest is a state highway. The last eastern section of the 210 freeway is only a state highway, but the rest of it west of Glendora is an interstate. Also, the 110 is an interstate south of downtown, but only a state highway north to Pasadena. Again, easier to just use the number.

- Most confusingly, some freeway names stretch across multiple freeway numbers. The Hollywood Freeway is the 170 in the Valley and continues as the 101 the rest of the way downtown. The Ventura Freeway is the 101 until you get to the 170 interchange (yeah, that same interchange) then continues on as the 134 to Pasadena.

I think the only difference is that we're using "the" instead of putting "freeway" at the end. You have to make clear to people that you're talking about a freeway and when we say "the" we all know what we mean. Even if it's not common outside California, I'm puzzled that other people would think it's weird.
 
101, 280, 380, 580, 680, 780, 880, 980, I-80, Highway 1, 24, 17 or Highway 17, "Ashby" north of 24 and "13" south of 24, San Pablo (for 123), El Camino Real (for 82), 84, 92, 85, 238 where it's an interstate and Mission when it's not, 237, Mission (for 262). Occasionally 880 will be replaced by "The Nimitz", and the 80-580 overlap with "The Eastshore Freeway". Less commonly, 101 on the peninsula will be replaced by "The Bayshore Freeway".

But never "The" before a number.
 
As other mentioned, the Chicagoland freeways are referred to often by a name that covers a stretch of it.

I STILL don't know them, and prefer I-94 to "The Bishop Ford" or whatever the heck it is called. Traffic news on the radio is useless to me. :eek:
 
I find the Dallas area a bit peculiar in that almost all the major highways have (and are referred to by their) names, in addition to the numbers.

I-35 = Stemmons
I-30 = R.L. Thornton
I-635 = LBJ
US-75 = Central Expressway
SH-190 = George Bush
US-175 = C.F. Hahn
I-45 = Julius Schepps

etc.
 
aloofman said:
Only a fellow road geek would know this, but part of SR 79 is signed as the "Ramona Expressway" for some reason. That one is really puzzling, since it's really just a highway with no grade separations.
Ahh, I should've caught that, especially since Ramona Expy isn't too far from where I live in Moreno Valley. Cajalco's also confusing because from the 215, it's signed as Cajalco Expy, but once you get on it, it's just Cajalco Rd. Both Ramona and Cajalco are probably only labeled "Expressway" for the same reason OC has "Parkways" - to make regular streets sound fancy. :rolleyes:
 
As others probably already said (didn't read all the posts), we name our expressways in Chicago....The Kennedy, Edens, Iisenhower, Stevenson, Tri-State, Bishop Ford, etc....instead of saying 90, 94, 294, 55, etc..... Heck, we even sometimes abbreviate the names..."Ike" instead of Isenhower, for example. Which can make things confusing for people not from the area. Traffic reporters often don't say the official number designations, I55, I90, etc. for example. And when people do say the numbers they usually leave off the "I."
 
I think you'll eventually find that California does a lot of weird/stupid things when compared to the rest of the country, especially in the trucking industry. ;)

When the 34-restart came into effect they didn't want to honor it and were shutting drivers down if they had used it in the last 7 days. they finally decided it was a good rule when the feds threatened to pull their highway funding. They are kinda funny like that.

How do you like CRST so far? Trucking in general?

Yeah, from what I hear, California's like another planet...
- the speed limit for trucks is 55, not 65 like almost everywhere else
- the "40 ft from kingpin to center of rear axle" law
- the whole exit number thing
- "the 5" "the 405" "the 10"
- different US Route signs, which I think are better because they
----- have an actual shape instead of being inside a black box
----- have "US" in them, which is way more patriotic than all the other states! :p kidding!

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How do you like CRST so far? Trucking in general?
I like the driving part! :p My trainer's a real stiff though, he's not friendly, but he's not mean either. He lets me use his appliances and gave me a key to the truck, so he's not all that bad. I just had to understand that he's not here to be nice and friendly, he's here to teach me.
 
On the other hand, we finally started posting exit numbers on our signs. Sometime before you die, they might all have numbers on them!

How long until you guys get around to putting up mile marker posts every mile? You know, like every other state. ;)

zephead said:
Yeah, from what I hear, California's like another planet...
- the speed limit for trucks is 55, not 65 like almost everywhere else

Oregon and Illinois both have a statewide 55MPH truck limit. Washington is 60. a bill was just signed in Illinios that will get rid of the split limit in the rural areas of the state, a similar bill took effect in Ohio a few months ago. We can thank OOIDA for both of these victories. I've heard that once all the bridges on the interstates are replaced in Oregon then their split limit will go away.

- the "40 ft from kingpin to center of rear axle" law

There are several other states that have similar laws, check the front of your trucker atlas for the details. Get yourself a tape measure and meansure from the center of the kingpin to the nose of the trailer, most are 3ft. If it is 3ft then you just have to measure 10ft from the rear fo the trailer to the center of the rear axle to be legal, a lot easier than measuring 40ft ;)

Idaho is a crazy state for axle laws once you get off the interstate, and for good reason. When you get your permit make sure you measure accurately and use the right numbers. They WILL enforce the length laws there. They also allow you to go up to 37,000lbs(as long as you are under 80k gross) on the trailer so you can slide the tandems all the way up.
 
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