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Is YouTube deliberately crippling their app on Atv

I'm just tired of all the commercials. In a 30 minute video, I had 8 commercials. One video I was watching was so chock full of commercials, I just quit the YT and went to AmazonPrime.

Commercials in YouTube videos? That's pretty stupid. Anyone remember, decades ago, the paperback book publishers that started putting ads in their books? It was 'the newest thing in advertising', and 'played to a captive audience', that hated them, and tore them out of books they bought, and even out of books in stores they didn't buy. Great idea, falling on it's face. Book sales dropped too...
 
MacBH928 said:
you are not wrong, but if I had the choice between YouTube and AppleTV? I would pick YouTube and ditch AppleTV.
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YouTube or Apple TV+ yes.

the hardware? No. Arguably the best TV platform which nicely integrates into the Apple eco system with huge potential still.
 
lederermc said:
The Netflix app is also worthless.
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And they just raised their prices too. Lockdown shakedown?
lederermc said:
The Netflix app is also worthless.
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I was about to subscribe to them, and their 'drop list' was published, and most of the movies on it were movies I really liked. Yeah, Netflix is dead to me... HAH!!!😆😆😆Hard pass... You do not dump those movies without some kind of reaction...
 
I’m really annoyed that Youtube finally gives us 4K, but not 4k60. So every 60fps 4K video is automatically topped out at 1440p... 🤡
 
The only thing I even use YouTube for on my ATV (the only reason I installed it) is because there is zero Google Play Movies and TV app for ATV, and I still have tons of movies exclusively on that platform and the only means of accessing them on ATV is the 'purchased' tab on the YouTube app.

If I wanted to catch the latest Allec Joshua Ibay or LGR video on YouTube, it makes little sense to see that on 65" 4K, when I feel far more comfortable using my 10" tablet for those types of videos.
 
rikscha said:
I’m about to delete YouTube from my atv as the amount of frustration it causes is reaching its limits.
They deliberately go against Apple’s design guidelines (why can’t I change the audio source within the app?)
and the overall navigating experience hasn’t been designed with the atv in mind. It just feels alien on my atv.

I’m using a HomePod stereo setup and sure enough YouTube is not working with airplay homepods. You have to go out of
The app and switch around inputs to make this work and next time you go back, you have to do the same thing again.
Navigating around often results in missing the menu or button you want to hit or in accidentally fast forwarding the content when you just try to get more information about the video you are watching.
The app hangs itself up occasionally or will just play sound even after leaving the app.
It’s a joke in my opinion and simply airplaying YouTube from your phone is the better experience.

Keen to hear other experiences.
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I finally did just this — deleted YouTube from AppleTV — for this exact reason. I tried all the suggestions identified in this thread (except using a username and password) and none worked consistently.

It’s odd that YouTube, an app backed by arguably the best software development company in the world fails so badly .. when countless apps developed by companies with a fraction of the resources just work without these fundamental system-level issues that should be isolated from traditional app-level concerns.

The most plausible conclusion I could reach is that the YouTube on ATV experience is intentional — YouTube chooses to muck with system-level concerns for reasons unknown and manages to impair YouTube ATV UX in doing so.

How YouTube works is Google’s choice. My choice is whether I want to tolerate the results of those choices on ATX or allow myself to be coerced into using Google platforms just to get good YouTube app UX.

I chose to say sayanora YouTube — I miss instant access to just about anything I’m interested in, but I’m thankful for the reduced privacy attack surface and the hours of reclaimed time that can be put to more meaningful pursuits.
 
The YouTube app on my Wii-U (from 2012, app never got updated) still works! That's how I've been watching Farscape lately, with the console plugged into the A/V of a 2009 Vizio TV via a converter, and the audio going into a neat old 1970s stereo system with those huge speakers, making Dolby feel like crap in comparison. Let me tell you, it's a world of difference in sound purity to hear the massive bass bumps during action sequences through some old Pioneer speakers from that time!
 
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rikscha said:
I’m about to delete YouTube from my atv as the amount of frustration it causes is reaching its limits.
They deliberately go against Apple’s design guidelines (why can’t I change the audio source within the app?)
and the overall navigating experience hasn’t been designed with the atv in mind. It just feels alien on my atv.

I’m using a HomePod stereo setup and sure enough YouTube is not working with airplay homepods. You have to go out of
The app and switch around inputs to make this work and next time you go back, you have to do the same thing again.
Navigating around often results in missing the menu or button you want to hit or in accidentally fast forwarding the content when you just try to get more information about the video you are watching.
The app hangs itself up occasionally or will just play sound even after leaving the app.
It’s a joke in my opinion and simply airplaying YouTube from your phone is the better experience.

Keen to hear other experiences.
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For a while, several years ago, Google played a transparent div on top of the videos in YouTube.com when Firefox users were accessing the site. It had the effect of slowing down the playing of the video because the renderer was having to calculate the transparency of that div with each frame. When people used inspector tools to remove it the performance went back to normal. It had no other function and seemed to be tailored to make Firefox seem slow on YouTube. Eventually it disappeared. Google is not above doing that kind of underhanded trick.
 
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Annoying that when you're searching for something on YouTube, and you click down to the suggestions, you can't get back up to the search input box thingy... (Whats it called?!)

I have to back out of search, to the main menu and go back into search to be able to enter a new video
 
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