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Re: Re: Re: IIDC compliance

Originally posted by timbloom
Considering that this fixes the conflict with Unreal Tournament 2004, the standards compliance was worth it. I read somewhere that the iSight didn't reply as expected to certain requests, and the audio stream was non-standard.

Ahhh okay then that makes it pretty clear... Thanks! Even if you did drop a bomb on my whole PC A/V iChat dreams... ;)

Dave
 
Sweeeet

What are you talking about placebo, this update makes the color MUCH MUCH better, especially in low light. I (and my girlfriend) used to have to have a lamp right behind the isight to show up well when the sun went down. I don't really tihnk of it as bad lighting, but it isn't like daylight. With the update I can turn that light off and still see myself. And even better, I'm not white/pale blue anymore, I'm a nice fleshy color.
Oh and if Apple ports iChat to windows I will be both happy and majorly pissed, why else did I just spend $700 on an emac and isight for my girlfriend??
 
Originally posted by Freg3000
I was going to ask how SW would know if I had an iSight or not. It doesn't-it showed up even though I do not have an iSight. What the heck, I installed it anyway. :)

Same, I always install updates for stuff I don't have, just in case I ever do get an iSight/iPod/Bluetooth/whatever else I've installed updates for. That way, I don't need to worry about getting updates once I actually have the device :)
 
Re: Real-time QuickTime effects

Originally posted by Sol
How is the iSight image distorted if a non-caucasian appears in it?

The iSight auto color balances, in an effort to make the picture look better. The problem is, you have no idea what the color SHOULD look like, because it could be used in a wide variety of situations.

Therefore, the engineers have to guess at a "right" color. I havent heard the comments you were referring to but I can imagine people were complaining because they thought the "guessing" was based on the assumption that you had a big white face in the middle of the shot. Having a big brown face in the middle of the shot would have then made the camera adjust to compensate, which could have made said big brown face look really odd.

The reality is it did a pretty crappy job at all of the different colors of faces. Everyone looked odd.

The new firmware makes my big white face look MUCH better (well, to a point, there's only so much you can do with what you are given). As soon as my friends with big brown faces update their firmware, I'll let you know how it went.
 
No placebo here, greenish hues went to orange now, before EVERYTHING had a green white balance, now it is a strong orange. Took pictures myself to prove this. Overall it makes people more truer to their skin tones. Quite impressed!
 
Re: Real-time QuickTime effects

Originally posted by Sol
How is the iSight image distorted if a non-caucasian appears in it? If there is any distortion then it should be a user-choice in the Firmware application.

I would like to see iChat allow for real-time QuickTime effects. Imagine if the user could change the colour, supper-impose text and graphics and dissolve to other video sources. If enough jaws hit the floor then video like that would sell a lot of Macs.

Many of those things can already be done. By the wonderful program Evocam.

I use it for webcam features and live streaming. With superimposed, alpha-channel text, colors, picture-in-picture, aftereffects-like filters, etc.
 
ugly firmware update

Just to warn you,

I installed the new firmware and I've had some pretty bad problems. Sometimes the colors totally freak out, but mainly the whole picture is overrun with green, blue, and black...

That, and the pic is bouncing some too.

Sometimes works, but mostly it hasn't worked.

Before update, no problems at all like this.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: IIDC compliance

Originally posted by DaveGee
Ahhh okay then that makes it pretty clear... Thanks! Even if you did drop a bomb on my whole PC A/V iChat dreams... ;)
Not sure if you've been living under a rock or what ;) , but AIM 5.5 for Windows was announced last week, with video chat compatibility with iChat AV, and in the MacCentral article about it they quoted an AOL (or maybe Apple) executive saying that the iSight would work with AIM on Windows.

So this has already happened, except it's AIM instead of iChat. There were some reports that the iSight wasn't always working properly on Windows, and my guess is that this improved IIDC compliance fixes those problems (or at least makes them better).

WM
 
I bought an iSight a few days ago and I'm impressed. I never tried to on iChat >< AIM yet, but works great in Yahoo Messenger. I think it's even better than iChat cuz I can leave it on all the time (broadcast mode) and anyone on my list can turn it on and view it at anytime :) I remember hearing that Yahoo video on Mac only works with Mac contacts, but apparently works with PC users too. So I don't know why all the fuss over AIM compatibility when there always was Yahoo.
 
White Balance

As a photographer, I *really* notice the white balance improvement. Previously, I looked very "blue-green" under fluorescent lighting (which is what happens to be in the room where the Mac with the iSight lives). Now, I'm a healthy shade of pink (okay, I went to the beach today...). Very true-to-life fleshtones now.
 
Re: White Balance

Originally posted by danbirchall
As a photographer, I *really* notice the white balance improvement. Previously, I looked very "blue-green" under fluorescent lighting (which is what happens to be in the room where the Mac with the iSight lives). Now, I'm a healthy shade of pink (okay, I went to the beach today...). Very true-to-life fleshtones now.

I, too, notice that I'm now a healthy shade of pink. The main problem I see is that I don't look anywhere near theat healthy IRL.. :)
 
did you ever have 30 fps with an alubook 1.25 Ghz on ichat av. The connection type is secondary. On the ichat site the system requirement for full quality is a dual 800 Mhz G4. I want to know if my powerbook ist faster then that.

The update is very good. The colours are much crisper and I am not pale anymore...
 
Wow, you know the rumor mill is slow when iSight Firmware is the top story for 24 hours on macrumors.
 
IIDC compliance

Originally posted by WM.
Not sure if you've been living under a rock or what ;) , but AIM 5.5 for Windows was announced last week, with video chat compatibility with iChat AV, and in the MacCentral article about it they quoted an AOL (or maybe Apple) executive saying that the iSight would work with AIM on Windows.

So this has already happened, except it's AIM instead of iChat. There were some reports that the iSight wasn't always working properly on Windows, and my guess is that this improved IIDC compliance fixes those problems (or at least makes them better).

WM

iChat AV Public Beta 2.1 supports video conferencing with AIM 5.5, and you can download it now.

http://www.apple.com/ichat/
 
iSight on PC DOES work

Assuming you have a OHCI compliant FW card in your PC and it is running XP it should all work ok - though you will need a separate microphone as the one in the iSight will only work with a Mac. One more good reason to use a Mac to be honest - not that you need too many excuses to switch !;) ;) ;)
 
Re: iSight on PC DOES work

Originally posted by davegoody
Assuming you have a OHCI compliant FW card in your PC and it is running XP it should all work ok - though you will need a separate microphone as the one in the iSight will only work with a Mac. One more good reason to use a Mac to be honest - not that you need too many excuses to switch !;) ;) ;)

LoL, that is like saying a good reason to switch to windows is that MS never wrote a mac driver for a MS made PC device.
 
Great update, but is it just me or does the isight now no longer compensate for text reversal? i.e. when you hold up a sheet of paper it does not show the text reversed... it does now... im sure it didn't show reversed text before?

UPDATE - the text is OK in iMovie and other video apps?? - maybe it is the iChat AV 2.1(Beta) that has changed it?
 
Daves:

Yes, there is a new version of AIM that's compatible with iChat 2.1, and yes, the iSight is supposed to work with AIM 5.5 on Windows. But there were some reports that it wasn't working, so I was speculating that perhaps this firmware update has made the iSight work more reliably on Windows machines.

WM
 
Worked very well for me

Installation was very smooth for me. Colour balance is definitely better, but the biggest improvement is in low light. It used to be hopeless working with just an ordinary room light, but now is quite acceptable.
 
just like a completely differnet camera

Honestly, I was a little upset with the color performance of my isight recently. Me all winter white sitting with a white t-shirt against a white wall wan't especially spectacular to view. well at least not good spectacular. the new colors are much better, esp. in low light environments. Gives a great deal of new self conciousness ;)

but then again, the sun was shining all day...
 
Originally posted by AJN
Great update, but is it just me or does the isight now no longer compensate for text reversal? i.e. when you hold up a sheet of paper it does not show the text reversed... it does now... im sure it didn't show reversed text before?

UPDATE - the text is OK in iMovie and other video apps?? - maybe it is the iChat AV 2.1(Beta) that has changed it?

Quite true, ichat has a 'mirror' mode that appears when you click on your own isight. it shouldnt be in mirror mode when chatting with others though ;)
 
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