Carrier Isn't it better to buy a verizon iPhone than any other carrier?

Bugeyeblue

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If the Verizon iPhone 5/5s/5c is unlocked out of the box, then it technically works with more carriers than with any other iPhone, right? If you buy an unlocked iPhone, it only works on gsm carriers, Verizon's iPhone works on gsm and verizon.
 

oldhifi

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it's if you can get a good signal where your at with the carrier you select, they are all pretty good..I have Verizon
 

T5BRICK

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If you buy an AT&T unlocked phone you won't ever be able to use it on Verizon. I assume this is what the OP was getting at (buying Verizon leaves you with the option to go to any of the big three carriers in the US and then some).
I was posting the link to the thread to confirm what he was thinking and what you posted.
 

C DM

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This is pretty much the case for 5S and 5C but not as much for 5 (as there are differences in LTE support in those models).
 

mpayne2k

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Reason I've not jumped to Verizon is I'd be forfeiting my AT&T unlimited (ie. 5gb/mo for $30 plan) and wouldn't be able to browse and be on a call at the same time...
 

T5BRICK

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it's if you can get a good signal where your at with the carrier you select, they are all pretty good..I have Verizon
Reason I've not jumped to Verizon is I'd be forfeiting my AT&T unlimited (ie. 5gb/mo for $30 plan) and wouldn't be able to browse and be on a call at the same time...
I don't think anyone here is talking about which carrier they're using, just which phone they'd be buying.
 

XcubusX

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If the Verizon iPhone 5/5s/5c is unlocked out of the box, then it technically works with more carriers than with any other iPhone, right? If you buy an unlocked iPhone, it only works on gsm carriers, Verizon's iPhone works on gsm and verizon.
Just remember a Verizon iPhone is only GSM unlocked and not LTE unlocked. You can get Edge, 3G, and HSPA+. You will not be able to get LTE speeds.
 

C DM

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Just remember a Verizon iPhone is only GSM unlocked and not LTE unlocked. You can get Edge, 3G, and HSPA+. You will not be able to get LTE speeds.
On a 5, yes, that's the case, on a 5S or 5C LTE will work fine on other carriers.
 

0007776

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Just remember a Verizon iPhone is only GSM unlocked and not LTE unlocked. You can get Edge, 3G, and HSPA+. You will not be able to get LTE speeds.
Do you have a source for that? on the 5 the Verizon model didn't have the same LTE bands as AT&T or T-Mobile, so it wouldn't work because of that, however with the 5S and 5C the Verizon phone has a chip that supports those bands and I've never heard of them restricting LTE usage on other carriers.
 

C DM

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Do you have a source for that? on the 5 the Verizon model didn't have the same LTE bands as AT&T or T-Mobile, so it wouldn't work because of that, however with the 5S and 5C the Verizon phone has a chip that supports those bands and I've never heard of them restricting LTE usage on other carriers.
Yup, LTE isn't restricted/locked, just basically what bands/frequencies are supported, and a Verizon 5S/5C supports the same ones that an AT&T or T-Mobile 5S/5C supports.
 

Applejuiced

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The only problem I had with using a verizon iphone 5 on AT&T was that I could not add an iphone data plan to it cause their system would not recognize the IMEI number as an iphone. I had to give them an IMEI of another AT&T iphone 5 I had on my account in order to add an iphone data plan to that line.
Besides that the verizon 5C,5S and most likely the next iphone will have all LTE and GSM bands available to be used on any US GSM carrier and be able to be activated on Verizon if needed. Not on Sprint or any of its MVNO's though.
 

serega

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The only problem I had with using a verizon iphone 5 on AT&T was that I could not add an iphone data plan to it cause their system would not recognize the IMEI number as an iphone. I had to give them an IMEI of another AT&T iphone 5 I had on my account in order to add an iphone data plan to that line.
Besides that the verizon 5C,5S and most likely the next iphone will have all LTE and GSM bands available to be used on any US GSM carrier and be able to be activated on Verizon if needed. Not on Sprint or any of its MVNO's though.
It was same with my Verizon 5S when activating on ATT. They brought a new iPhone from their stock and entered that's phone IMEI. All LTE works great, faster then Verizon. One thing tough it doesn't show what kind of phone I use on my ATT page. It shows properly another iPhone 5 which is ATT one.
 

Applejuiced

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It was same with my Verizon 5S when activating on ATT. They brought a new iPhone from their stock and entered that's phone IMEI. All LTE works great, faster then Verizon. One thing tough it doesn't show what kind of phone I use on my ATT page. It shows properly another iPhone 5 which is ATT one.
Yep, pretty much.
It's better for resale value to also have the verizon option I guess but personally I would never switch to verizon so I'm either going with a full price AT&T iphone or a factory unlocked one on the next iphone.
 

serega

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Yep, pretty much.
It's better for resale value to also have the verizon option I guess but personally I would never switch to verizon so I'm either going with a full price AT&T iphone or a factory unlocked one on the next iphone.
I'm still planning to get Verizon iPhone 6, so I can have that option just in case.
 

Bugeyeblue

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Reason I've not jumped to Verizon is I'd be forfeiting my AT&T unlimited (ie. 5gb/mo for $30 plan) and wouldn't be able to browse and be on a call at the same time...
Forgot about that... Good call.

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Just remember a Verizon iPhone is only GSM unlocked and not LTE unlocked. You can get Edge, 3G, and HSPA+. You will not be able to get LTE speeds.
Didn't know that. This is why I started this thread.
 

Xenomorph

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How do you kill the CDMA radio on a Verizon phone?

For example, with any GSM iPhone, you can pull the SIM and use it like an iPod touch w/ GPS.

I had a CDMA iPhone 4 (trash device someone gave me), and there was NO WAY to turn off the cellular radio. It would drain battery all the time (as it tried to maintain a cell signal, even with no service).

Middle of nowhere with a CDMA phone = battery drain. No good as a GPS device.

Middle of nowhere with GSM phone = pull SIM. Great as a GPS device.
 

Agent-P

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How do you kill the CDMA radio on a Verizon phone?





For example, with any GSM iPhone, you can pull the SIM and use it like an iPod touch w/ GPS.





I had a CDMA iPhone 4 (trash device someone gave me), and there was NO WAY to turn off the cellular radio. It would drain battery all the time (as it tried to maintain a cell signal, even with no service).





Middle of nowhere with a CDMA phone = battery drain. No good as a GPS device.





Middle of nowhere with GSM phone = pull SIM. Great as a GPS device.


I would've turned on airplane mode to kill the cellular radio and then turned on WiFi after doing that.
 

Applejuiced

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How do you kill the CDMA radio on a Verizon phone?

For example, with any GSM iPhone, you can pull the SIM and use it like an iPod touch w/ GPS.

I had a CDMA iPhone 4 (trash device someone gave me), and there was NO WAY to turn off the cellular radio. It would drain battery all the time (as it tried to maintain a cell signal, even with no service).

Middle of nowhere with a CDMA phone = battery drain. No good as a GPS device.

Middle of nowhere with GSM phone = pull SIM. Great as a GPS device.
Couldn't you just deactivate the cdma number that was on that phone and transfer that number to another phone thus leaving that iphone inactive?
Or wost case just put it on airplane mode so its shuts off all radios, avoiding battery drain and then just turn on wifi only to use data as an ipod touch?
 

C DM

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I would've turned on airplane mode to kill the cellular radio and then turned on WiFi after doing that.
Yup that's how it's basically done, airplane mode and then turn on WiFi, Bluetooth, and/or whatever else (aside from cellular) that might be needed.