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I enjoy your attention seeking discussion. It's not providing any meaningful discussion, but I like reading about them.

It's not attention seeking. I like this board. I like discussing things. Is that so bad? Just because I posted a thread doesn't mean I'm crying out for attention. It's just a message board... not a counseling session.
 
I'm not. Lets not forget, it wasn't so long ago Steve was telling everyone that nobody wanted third party applications on the iPhone and web apps were fine.

Phazer

Did he really say that? That's nuts. His sickness must have simmering under the surface back then too.

As for an iPhone update, I think Apple is finished at this point. We'll have wait until 3.0. Until then, perhaps we can enjoy Apple's small moments of weaknesses, when they throw us a bone and decide to let a useful app into the App Store.
 
Srsly? They ignore every other product line and you think they forgot about the iPhone? geesh

Definitely agree. I think it's time for a new Mac Mini, Apple TV, Mac Pro, iMac, XServe, etc before we worry about new iPhone software.

I will admit that they have seriously neglected BASIC features. There's no denying that. :rolleyes:
 
Well, let's remember that OS 1.0 only made it as far as 1.1.4 (which was released in February 08 interestingly enough) and was the last update before the 3G iPhone and 2.0 came out last summer. At least we've made it to 2.2.1 this time around.

Personally, I think history will repeat itself...meaning that the February 09 update was the last we'll see...until a simultaneous major update and a new iPhone are released later on in the year (possibly this summer).
 
If they bring out a new model iPhone with 3.0 firmware. Will that firmware even support older gen iPhones?
 
If they bring out a new model iPhone with 3.0 firmware. Will that firmware even support older gen iPhones?

Well, considering that there are millions of iPhone owners worldwide already, it would make no sense to provide software that wasn't compatible. Many of the international customers have a much lengthier (and costlier) process to go through when upgrading.
 
If they bring out a new model iPhone with 3.0 firmware. Will that firmware even support older gen iPhones?
Good question. For some reason, I feel like a new iPhone with a new OS that supports backwards compatibility might be holding back the full potential of a new hardware or software. Nintendo understands. Also, take for instance the Palm Pre and how it has a gesture area. That same area on the iPhone is free space and i'd imagine that if they were to (for one reason or another) implement a gesture area into a new iPhone, then that could open up a host of new features...something that could not be passed down to previous gen iPhones via an downloadable update.

...but ya kno, I could be wrong about all that.

Well, considering that there are millions of iPhone owners worldwide already, it would make no sense to provide software that wasn't compatible. Many of the international customers have a much lengthier (and costlier) process to go through when upgrading.
That doesn't mean they it's not possible. When it comes down to it, the iPhone is everything minus the "i"....that's right, it's a phone. Some people seem to forget that sometimes. It's primary purpose is to communicate with other phones and as long as it can still do that, then I see no reason why no backwards compatibility is still viable. Aside from that, maybe it could vindicate why one would want to upgrade to a new set.
 
That doesn't mean they it's not possible. When it comes down to it, the iPhone is everything minus the "i"....that's right, it's a phone. Some people seem to forget that sometimes. It's primary purpose is to communicate with other phones and as long as it can still do that, then I see no reason why no backwards compatibility is still viable. Aside from that, maybe it could vindicate why one would want to upgrade to a new set.

While I agree, most people buy an iPhone because it is more than just a phone and has all sorts of other features/technologies associated with it. If people wanted just a phone as you say, they don't need an iPhone.
 
While I agree, most people buy an iPhone because it is more than just a phone and has all sorts of other features/technologies associated with it. If people wanted just a phone as you say, they don't need an iPhone.
True. I admit the features that came along with this phone compelled me enough to buy one. But I'm just talking about the possibility of a future update that would be incompatible with older gen iPhones. What I'm really trying to say is.....it probably won't lose any of its current ability, but instead, it probably won't gain anything either.
 
Well, considering that there are millions of iPhone owners worldwide already, it would make no sense to provide software that wasn't compatible.


It would make a whole lot of sense to Apple if millions of customers upgraded to a new iPhone release.
 
It would make a whole lot of sense to Apple if millions of customers upgraded to a new iPhone release.

Yes, it would, but this is not realistic and Apple knows this. There are millions of people "trapped" in the midst of their 2-year contract and in all practicality, just can't afford to upgrade. If there was no backwards compatibility, this would royally piss off millions of people. Like Apple made Leopard compatible on PPCs, it would be horrible business if they didn't allow firmware 3.0 to run on the current iPhone 3G. Furthermore, firmware 2.0 can run on the initial iPhone.

That said, this likely will not mean that every new feature will run perfectly on the current iPhone. It may be slow, perhaps buggy, but if people want the perfect experience, they can shell out the cash for the latest phone.
 
That said, this likely will not mean that every new feature will run perfectly on the current iPhone. It may be slow, perhaps buggy, but if people want the perfect experience, they can shell out the cash for the latest phone.

Apple will disable the feature before they knowingly provide a buggy experience. You only have to look as far as iLife '09, the iPhone SDK and a few other Apple apps to see that Apple will withhold features when the hardware isn't up to the task.
 
Apple will disable the feature before they knowingly provide a buggy experience. You only have to look as far as iLife '09, the iPhone SDK and a few other Apple apps to see that Apple will withhold features when the hardware isn't up to the task.

Uhuh... because 2.0 and 1.0 were bug free and all.
 
Uhuh... because 2.0 and 1.0 were bug free and all.

Uhuh indeed.

The point wasn't about bad, sloppy or unfinished code, it's about newer and/or faster processors in future iPhones. Eventually, Apple will release newer firmware with processor intensive features some of which will be disabled for older iPhone models. Running background apps could be one of those features.
 
I'd like to see an update, but I don't know how much else they can add aside from what everyone has always been clamoring for with the cut and paste and MMS.
 
Especially with the keyboard. Apple can fully utilize the perfection that is a virtual keyboard by at least letting users choose between different versions of it.

Definitely! I think I might like something like a standard phone keyboard with three letters to a button. I bet I could get pretty fast with that.
 
Definitely! I think I might like something like a standard phone keyboard with three letters to a button. I bet I could get pretty fast with that.

Oh man, I mean, fast and one handed, with two hands you could punch out a simply text with ten to fifteen presses. With the auto finish of the HTC Touch words like "PROFESSIONAL" are finished after I press "PRO" then select the word that I want and move on.

If I need to punch out, "Hey baby!, give me a call when you get home." it's:

he* bab* giv* me* a* cal* whe* you* get*(same letters as hey, so gets tricky) hom*.

With the (*) as spaces.

With larger words and names it's very useful.
 
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