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Issue with Space?

Spiritus

Spiritus

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Feb 19, 2015
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Ok so I'm having an issues with space on my iPhone. Basically I know that I should have roughly 12gig after the iPhone uses the other 4gig. Mine says I have 1gig available. But when I add up all the space my apps take up it equals only about 6gig. So that should mean I have 6gig available still not 1gig. I've used the iCleaner app which deletes corrupt files and clears the cache of apps. I've deleted the "deleted photos" folder. Which took me from 1gig to 2gig available. So that means I'm still missing like 4gig of space. Any ideas of where to look for this issue? Like are there folders that could have partial downloads in them that I'm not aware of? Any typical folders to look at for these issues? Any suggestions other than "get a new phone" or "reset your phone" or "upgrade to iOS 9?

I use an iPhone 5S with 16gig
iOS 8.4
I'm jailbroke
 
The 16GB iPhones actually only have roughly 12GB of space. Start your calculations at 12 and not 16 and you'll see where the other 4GB went.

If you want to check that, just look at the capacity in Settings>General>About.
 
eyoungren said:
The 16GB iPhones actually only have roughly 12GB of space. Start your calculations at 12 and not 16 and you'll see where the other 4GB went.

If you want to check that, just look at the capacity in Settings>General>About.
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Thanks for the reply. As I had already stated in the original post I knew there is 12gig and the other 4 is used by the phone. My apps take up 6gig. That leaves 6gig open out of the 12. It shows I only have 2gig available though. So that's 4gig missing somewhere.
 
Spiritus said:
Thanks for the reply. As I had already stated in the original post I knew there is 12gig and the other 4 is used by the phone. My apps take up 6gig. That leaves 6gig open out of the 12. It shows I only have 2gig available though. So that's 4gig missing somewhere.
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No, you are misunderstanding me.

Start with 12GB. THEN subtract 4GB for iOS (the phone). THEN the rest.

You are starting with 16GB then subtracting 4GB for iOS (which gives you 12) when you should be starting at 12GB.
 
eyoungren said:
No, you are misunderstanding me.

Start with 12GB. THEN subtract 4GB for iOS (the phone). THEN the rest.

You are starting with 16GB then subtracting 4GB for iOS (which gives you 12) when you should be starting at 12GB.
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I'm confused. Why would I start with 12 then subtract 4? It's a 16gig phone. Are you saying the iOS etc on my phone takes up 8gig leaving me only 8 out of the 16 before I even download anything?
[doublepost=1454885711][/doublepost]Everything I've read including Apples forums says on the 16gig phone 12gig (11.7 to be precise) is the initial available amount. So if it's 12gig and I've used 6gig that should leave 6gig available. I have 2. That's 4gig missing.
 
Spiritus said:
I'm confused. Why would I start with 12 then subtract 4? It's a 16gig phone. Are you saying the iOS etc on my phone takes up 8gig leaving me only 8 out of the 16 before I even download anything?
[doublepost=1454885711][/doublepost]Everything I've read including Apples forums says on the 16gig phone 12gig (11.7 to be precise) is the initial available amount. So if it's 12gig and I've used 6gig that should leave 6gig available. I have 2. That's 4gig missing.
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This is one of the issues that annoy people about Apple.

They advertise 16GB. But the actual capacity you get is around 12GB. It's the same kind of thing with hard drives.

My own 128GB iPhone shows a capacity of 113GB. That's 15GB I'm 'missing'.

So, while your model is "16GB" you don't actually HAVE 16GB (subtracting 4GB for OS). You have 12GB (then subtracting 4GB for OS).

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eyoungren said:
This is one of the issues that annoy people about Apple.

They advertise 16GB. But the actual capacity you get is around 12GB. It's the same kind of thing with hard drives.

My own 128GB iPhone shows a capacity of 113GB. That's 15GB I'm 'missing'.

So, while your model is "16GB" you don't actually HAVE 16GB (subtracting 4GB for OS). You have 12GB (then subtracting 4GB for OS).

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You're having me subtract 4gb twice for the iOS. It's a 16gb phone but you're saying it's really only 12gb completely blank with an empty hard drive. Then they install the iOS which is 4gb?
[doublepost=1454886575][/doublepost]When I open a brand new never used 16gb iPhone how much space is available for me to install apps etc?
 
Spiritus said:
When I open a brand new never used 16gb iPhone how much space is available for me to install apps etc?
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Should be about 8GB.

I will admit I could be wrong, but this is my understanding. If I am wrong, then I am still missing 11GB on my own capacity (assuming 4GB for iOS).
 
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eyoungren said:
This is one of the issues that annoy people about Apple.

They advertise 16GB. But the actual capacity you get is around 12GB. It's the same kind of thing with hard drives.
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And it is the same for most (all?) computer manufacturers and hard drive manufacturers. It is not an Apple thing. It is just the difference how bits and bytes are counted in decimal or binary.

A.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
 
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Alrescha said:
And it is the same for most (all?) computer manufacturers and hard drive manufacturers. It is not an Apple thing. It is just the difference how bits and bytes are counted in decimal or binary.

A.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
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I understand that. I'm not coming down on either side of this. Just pointing out that some people are annoyed at Apple for it.

I've been dealing with hard drives for PCs and Macs since 1990 so I'm very familiar with the difference between stated capacity and actual capacity.
 
I'm just really confused. I just did a simple 30 second yahoo search. And the first 20 websites that were relevant all said the same thing. The 16gb uses 4gb for the iOS and that 12gb is available to the consumer to use. Is this not true?
 
eyoungren said:
I understand that. I'm not coming down on either side of this. Just pointing out that some people are annoyed at Apple for it.
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i was not posting for your benefit. I was posting on behalf of others, who might interpret your statement differently than you intended, given the context.

A.
 
Spiritus said:
I'm just really confused. I just did a simple 30 second yahoo search. And the first 20 websites that were relevant all said the same thing. The 16gb uses 4gb for the iOS and that 12gb is available to the consumer to use. Is this not true?
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It is entirely possible I have my facts wrong. I am not infallible and have been proven wrong in these forums many times.

I don't believe I am wrong in this case, but I do not deny the possibility.
 
I use the iPhone 6 Plus 16gb.

After the Os takes up some of that storage space I have approx 11.5Gb of user memory left.
 
Spiritus said:
Ok so I'm having an issues with space on my iPhone. Basically I know that I should have roughly 12gig after the iPhone uses the other 4gig. Mine says I have 1gig available. But when I add up all the space my apps take up it equals only about 6gig. So that should mean I have 6gig available still not 1gig. I've used the iCleaner app which deletes corrupt files and clears the cache of apps. I've deleted the "deleted photos" folder. Which took me from 1gig to 2gig available. So that means I'm still missing like 4gig of space. Any ideas of where to look for this issue? Like are there folders that could have partial downloads in them that I'm not aware of? Any typical folders to look at for these issues? Any suggestions other than "get a new phone" or "reset your phone" or "upgrade to iOS 9?

I use an iPhone 5S with 16gig
iOS 8.4
I'm jailbroke
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In the future, go with a 32GB iPhone at a minimum. Also, move pics to the Cloud (Drop Box, BOX, Google Drive) to free up memory. Spotify is a memory hog. Good luck
 
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