It's almost 2016, I can't wait for Google/Android to stop being awful

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Jinzen, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. Jinzen macrumors 6502

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    I use a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus as my daily right now (have an iPhone 6S Plus as well). I use it because it is a better device for my needs (vacation pics, front and rear camera) and Samsung Pay is AWESOME, but I just can't help but be appalled at just truly how terrible the software is when comparing it to iOS in many ways.

    I'm not even going into Samsung Software because we all know most of it is terrible. Thankfully, one can disable all or most Samsung software and simply use a Material Design theme on top of TouchWiz.

    So Google, when are you going to stop being terrible at:

    1) Battery life! I can disable every thing from location services, to android device manager, debloat every possible thing, and my iPhone 6S Plus gets 2x days of straight usage, possibly 2 weeks of idle if I left it there. My S6 Edge + gets about 3 days of idle, or maybe 5 hours of screen usage on it.

    2) Music! Don't even get me started. Google Play Music is still a beta service. Duplicate tracks, replaced explicit tracks, app not refreshing, taking days to update from changes to online, any changes to playlists not updating for ages. Poor performance in App. Horrible interface. I'm now resorted to using Shuttle + iSyncr. GPM is the epitome of horrible Google coding and engineering. Perpetually stuck in beta software state.

    3) Maps! How does Google Maps performance worse in rendering and framerate on Android than iOS? Shameful

    4) Apps! Generally, the big name apps are OK. But when looking at most of the equivalent apps on my iOS device, they are almost always behind in features or performance. Google Apps actually perform worse as well, Chrome for example is never consistent in scrolling acceleration and rendering performance. It works better on iOS (probably because Chrome uses Safari's rendering in iOS).

    Some things to wish for from Google but will likely never happen:

    - iMessage competitor. Just make Hangouts integrate with Google Account, actually work just like iMessage.

    - Integrate Hangouts like FaceTime does with Google Account.

    Here's to a better Google experience in 2016. Google, please hire some legit software engineers. Your stuff is so half baked compared to Apple, when you're supposed to be a purely software and services company.
     
  2. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Nexus 6P

    And Google Play Music is significantly more streamlined and stable than Apple Music.
     
  3. jamezr macrumors G4

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    I have a 6s+ and Note 5 and routinely switch back and forth. I think I have the exact opposite experiences as you have described.
    When is IOS going to catch up to Android and allow some of the very basic customizations? When will Apple Maps ever catch up to Google maps. When will Siri ever catch up to Google voice controls? Then throw in Google search and Chrome integration across devices is priceless.

    Facebook scrolling on IOS is horrible compared to Android.

    Then don't get me started on 3D Touch.......horrible implementation. It is a gimmicky feature at best and doesn't even work for some of Apples own software like Weather. Then when it does work on Apple Music it give useless information.
    When will Mail catch to some basic functions like sending attachments?

    I mean c'mon Apple please let me arrange my icon on my home screen as a see fit! This is 2016 and technology evolves......get with the times.

    I can go on but I think you get my drift....
     
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  5. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Great response. The problem with iOS devices at this point is Apple development. Most of their implementations are second rate to other apps on the app store but often Apple limits your ability to replace the default apps for services.
     
  6. The Game 161 macrumors G5

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    Cmon it's not awful. TW maybe is but pure android I think is very good.

    I'm all apple now but there is negatives with all devices. 16GB on Apple products for one is a joke.

    I'm happy with widgets in lock screen on ios but would I like it how it is on android? Sure.
     
  7. The Game 161 macrumors G5

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    You can send attachments now though.

    I personally really like 3D Touch. Super useful in slot of my daily use. Certainly in email.

    We will see 3D Touch on Samsung devices next year
     
  8. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    It's a great idea, but it's still weakened by Apple's pathetic software package.
     
  9. jamezr macrumors G4

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    I saw the rumor that 3DT will be on the S7..... I am sure it won't be any better than it is on my iPhone.
    I think it is useful for email. But most of the time I forget it is there tbh.
     
  10. JackieInCo macrumors 601

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    It's possible. I just never liked the Google Music app. That alone has always made me appreciate my iPhone even more.
     
  11. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    That 'masks' touchwiz but your'e still using touchwiz regardless. Touchwiz with a theme is still touchwiz.

    Also conversely, disabling a lot of touchwiz infrastructure can indeed adversely affect performance than improve it - especially using something like Package Disabler Pro


    5 hours SOT is considered very good. The iPhone 6 Plus & 6S Plus may get an extra hour or so SOT, but 5 hours is still on the decent end of the spectrum.

    Google play music is excellent imho. I much prefer it to apple music which I have had far more issues with generally. I use music manager to upload my iTunes library on my mac, and the changes are reflected immediately when I do, unsure why you are having difficulty in this regard.

    Cant comment, don't really use it or Apple maps on my iphone either.

    Not experienced this. I find mostly parallel experience between my Moto X / Nexus 6P & iPhone 6S Plus app wise.

    Hangouts 'does' integrate with Google account. The issue with messaging on Android is the fact there is no standard app. All manufacturers OEM skins have their own sms/messaging apps - hangouts remains an optional install. You won't get a direct iMessage competitor until the 1 app is unified on ALL android OEMs. This won't happen and there is nothing google can likely do about it.

    As for comment on half baked software, I think we can all agree that whilst Google are not perfect, Apple are certainly no better with much of their software in the last number of years requiring significant amount of updates post launch to bring them up to standard, and in many cases many are still more gimped than their predecessors lacking features the earlier version had (photos vs iPhoto - pages 2015 vs Pages 09 etc...)
     
  12. MasterRyu2011 macrumors 65816

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    wait, hangouts is associated with your google account. Hangouts is awesome. It's the reason why I am able to groupchat with a bunch of friends on a daily basis, many of whom use iPhones. If your phone doesn't come with it, it's a few clicks away to download.

    I definitely agree with the battery life though. Doze from Marshmallow is definitely closing the gap, but I am constantly mindful of battery life when using most Android phones. Then again, iPhones still don't have fast charging. With USB Type C fast charging and Qualcomm's own solution, that's where most modern Android phones shine.
     
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    I read the title and just thought 'troll post', but read the post anyway, and my suspicions were confirmed I think.

    I think Apple has a better app store and eco system, but apart from that they are par for par in my opinion. Well apart from Android is a more stable OS than iOS is.
     
  14. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Yeah honestly for me the experience I get on my mobile devices is much of a muchness whether android or iOS.

    As for stability, for me it's much of a muchness too. Rarely have had stability issues on android or iOS over the last year either.

    Only issue I had that persisted for a couple of weeks was the new google play store would crash when going into books, which I had to wait for an update to the app to fix it, which it did.
     
  15. The Game 161 macrumors G5

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    Think it will take a few years before it becomes a game changer for most. Certainly has great potential though
     
  16. cbobb123 macrumors member

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    You appreciate your iPhone more because of a music app? It's not like you're forced to use play music.
     
  17. JackieInCo macrumors 601

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    Why is this hard to understand? The iPod pay off my iPhone had always been one if my most favorite reasons I own an iPhone.
     
  18. Jinzen thread starter macrumors 6502

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    5 hours sot is pathetic. My 6s plus easily goes to 10-12 hours before hitting 20%

    Google play music is awful. It duplicated all my tracks and ruined all of my playlists. It works for you now but when you switch computers or something, watch it become screwed up to hell. The app is absolutely awful in performance and frame rates too
     
  19. Jinzen thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hangouts is no different than we chat, what's app, line or whatever. In order for it to be truly useful it needs to be integrated with SMS and MMS just like iMessage. It needs to fall back onto sms when hangouts is not available and it needs to be associated with phone numbers as well as google account
     
  20. Blaze4G macrumors 6502a

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    LOL @ your iPhone getting 10-12 hours SOT with 20% left.

    Usage time =/= SOT
     
  21. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Your complaints about GPM are the exact complaints everyone has about Apple Music, because Apple Music is garbage.

    Also, the screen on the 6S+ is little league next to the Android flagships with 100 less ppi than the Nexus 6P. If the iPhone 6s+ didn't get better battery life, there would be no reason to buy it outside of your iOS loyalty.

    Also, 12 hours SOT? How do you measure that? How do you even put your phone screen on for 12 hours?

    But seriously, don't come in here and try to start an argument. The reason to buy an iPhone is iOS ecosystem and the camera. The reason to buy an Android is the customization and Google services.

    Apple services are complete trash. There isn't one redeeming Apple service, and I've owned every other iPhone for years. I finally couldn't take the horrible implementation of services any longer.
     
  22. mclld macrumors 68000

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    This is probably the worst stealth troll attempt ever
     
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    You must have the magic iPhone. LOL
     
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    Its always amazes me how little some iphone users know about their phones. Like usage numbers do not equal screen on time SOT.
     
  25. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    It's such an easy thing to think about. How could you possibly have your screen on for twelve hours unless it's all you do?
     

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