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iPod touch It's been hacked

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Confirmed! We have exploited both Itouch / Iphone 1.1.1
Submitted by Niacin on Tue, 2007-10-09 00:48.
Using the tiff exploit, we have managed to expose the root parition via the symlink hack. We have verified the exploit with an iphone 1.0.2,1.1.1 and itouch 1.1.1
We are currently working on remounting the / parition rw and we will be hosting the exploit on this site SOON.

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So if the new version of firmware comes out, will that brick the Touch? Or can we revert back to factory firmware?
 
now, just as a point...how can apple possibly justify making the iPod touch hacking invalid?

they stand nothing to lose by it...they've already got their money...let people do what they want

the only thing i can see is that they'll be afraid of hackers porting iTouch knowledge to iPhone

but i'll wait to see what apple do before hacking my own iPod
 
Genghis Khan said:
now, just as a point...how can apple possibly justify making the iPod touch hacking invalid?

they stand nothing to lose by it...they've already got their money...let people do what they want

the only thing i can see is that they'll be afraid of hackers porting iTouch knowledge to iPhone

but i'll wait to see what apple do before hacking my own iPod
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While Apple has not (fair) reason for maintaining control over already sold devices whose hacking comes at no cost to them (and would actually make the devices worth more, although Apple apparently prefers control), there is a valid reason.

The TIFF hack is a major security vulnerability, and while few people will probably pay there bills over the touch (although one easily could), it would make sense to patch it up, and they would have a very good reason to do so.

The problem is that Apple will do so primarily motivated by their desire to assert control over the touch, and that's what's going to piss all of us off who have grown attached (for about a week) to having notes and google maps (although calendar additions could help soften the blow).
 
DUDE YES. I can't wait for this... I just don't want the next update to complete iF*** my iPod (which it probabaly will)
 
I am checking out the IRC chat with Colloquy, pretty interesting.

They are still testing, still some rough edges yet so far. But people are trying to jump on the beta, I'm sure there will be more info tomorrow-

EDIT- Niacin (the guy behind the hack) said they're trying to get a beta up in a few minutes.
 
Not public yet, maybe very soon. I'm going to bed, and expect to read about it in the morning.

It looks like it won't be for beginners at this point, you will need iPhuc (the software for getting into the Touch/iPhone) and probably a decent list of instructions.

Then later after its tested and all, someone will come up with an easy 1-click GUI for it.

EDIT- iPhone 1.1.1 instructions are up, but not for Touch-
http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-v1-1-1-jailbreak-apptapp-installation-guide
 
This is the hack we're testing here.
Note: Due to the nature of this hack, it's to be considered ephemeral. Apple needs only to patch the TIFF vulnerability and file system access on v1.1.1 is out, with the touch and iPhone back to their previously not-too-hackable state.
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Still very skeptical. If only I hadnt read THIS

I was under the impression that you hack it ONCE to get root access and then the software has ROOT access then you are set. Wouldnt it not matter if that patched the TIFF exploit since root access has already be acheived?

what do you guys(and gals) think?
Arisian
 
Arisian said:
I was under the impression that you hack it ONCE to get root access and then the software has ROOT access then you are set. Wouldnt it not matter if that patched the TIFF exploit since root access has already be acheived?
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I think it would, because the TIFF exploit was their way of getting root control... I'm pretty sure when they update the software, patching the exploit, they'll lose root access.

What i'm trying to say is that when they update the software on the hacked touch it will reset the software back to the way it was, only probably without the exploit...and without root
 
madmaxmedia said:
Not public yet, maybe very soon. I'm going to bed, and expect to read about it in the morning.

It looks like it won't be for beginners at this point, you will need iPhuc (the software for getting into the Touch/iPhone) and probably a decent list of instructions.

Then later after its tested and all, someone will come up with an easy 1-click GUI for it.

EDIT- iPhone 1.1.1 instructions are up, but not for Touch-
http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-v1-1-1-jailbreak-apptapp-installation-guide
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We can only hope...
 
It depends on the nature of the update. Earlier iPhone updates only updated relevant parts of the OS, and didn't interfere with jailbreaking.

Update 1.1.1 not only rewrote the entire OS, but also introduced new measures that prevented the old jailbreak methods from working.

Regardless of the method of exploit, sooner or later an Apple update will probably overwrite the entire OS again, and that update will probably need to be re-hacked again.

Arisian said:
This is the hack we're testing here.

Still very skeptical. If only I hadnt read THIS

I was under the impression that you hack it ONCE to get root access and then the software has ROOT access then you are set. Wouldnt it not matter if that patched the TIFF exploit since root access has already be acheived?

what do you guys(and gals) think?
Arisian
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madmaxmedia said:
It depends on the nature of the update. Earlier iPhone updates only updated relevant parts of the OS, and didn't interfere with jailbreaking.

Update 1.1.1 not only rewrote the entire OS, but also introduced new measures that prevented the old jailbreak methods from working.

Regardless of the method of exploit, sooner or later an Apple update will probably overwrite the entire OS again, and that update will probably need to be re-hacked again.
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i couldn't agree more... We really dont have alot of data to work with here (ie, one update 1.1.1) so we arent really sure what the standard release is going to be like. I sure hope they edit the kernel rather than actually REPLACING the darn thing. Not to mention I dont like dloading 150+ meg updates, though its not a huge problem.

Arisian
 
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