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"It's just simpler"
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Thing is Android Apps communicate with each other unlike io Apps which can't communicate with each other.
5 minutes, you sure?! That's not normal
Takes ten seconds on mine; way longer than any other app I can think of, but not ridiculously long.
Yeah it's a long time.
I'll take back the iTunes part until I get the new Mac I'm lusting over.
I love ape products so I'm sure I'll love the mac
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Should be better. But it isn't.
It's the reason. I have plans of buying an ipad not a nexus
The "its just simpler" line is a copout and just isn't true these days. Android is just as easy to use an ios, in many ways its easier, for example in Whatsapp on ios you cant do half the stuff that makes linking videos from you tube ect easy like you can on the Android version. On ios you have to jump though hoops to do most stuff that you can do in one or two button presses on Android. Btw i use both ios and Android on a daily basis.
Again, the choices that they don't about are simply ignored. I have seen this phenomenon happen all the time. Most people on Android (and iOS) just text, call, and maybe surf the web. These people aren't concerned about Android Beam, S beam etc.
Most Android users I see, whenever they have a problem they just swear under their breath and say "this stupid phone why can't you do what I want". Then when an iPhone user has this problem, they are more inclined to go and get some help from an expert. And I don't see any Samsung stores around, where can I bring a Samsung device too? Those (no offense) "stupid [insert carrier here] people"? Consumers just find Apple Stores more inviting and friendly.
Lol what the hell? I have never had a problem with refreshing the news feed on the Facebook app. Either delete your FB a
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Lol what the hell? I have never had a problem with refreshing the news feed on the Facebook app. Either delete your FB app and redownload it, or just restart your phone and problem solved there should be no reason why you cant pull down to refresh on Facebook.
And what are you talking about it is easy as pie to put music on my iPhone lmao all i have to do is drag and drop into iTunes how hard is that?
It's a mild form of trolling. As stated above, it comes from people's opinions which are subjective. Where it comes from is really irrelevant because it's as useless as any other gross oversimplification ("Blackberries are best for email", etc). What does matter is each individual finding what works best for that individual and not everyone even places "simpler" as a priority.
FWIW, I find Android and IOS equally easy to use. My wife finds IOS easier. Don't assume that your preferences are universal.
Poor test. If you want to test whether something's simple then give it to an old person and see how they do with it. Kids can pick up just about anything.
Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean what you think it means. Your sample isn't representative of the overall situation with everyone out there no matter how many customers you help.
It's all debatable. That's the nature of subjectivity.
Doesn't take me forever to open iTunes and I don't check and uncheck songs. Again subjective preference. The real question here is why you feel the need to champion your preferences and ignore the fact that preference varies? If you prefer Android, great. It should be obvious what users here will prefer. Neither Android nor IOS is one size fits all.
Use what works for you. Others will use what works for them. Arguing that your measuring stick is what everyone should use is nonsense. None of this should be any sort of epiphany. Look around you in real life and you'll see countless examples of people's preferences differing from your own. It really isn't that much of a leap to consider that the same thing applies to smartphones.
Now it's very clear you're just being ridiculous and trolling. It's a name. That's it.
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Pull to refresh is a basic GUI element that has been present in many apps for several years. I probably wouldn't be bashing other phones when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
This is going to sound negative, and honest to god I'm not meaning it that way, but I think a majority of iPhone users are either technically illiterate or just don't care about technology. I believe anything other than an app drawer is confusing to them and the idea of having more options to choose from (even though they don't have to choose any of them) is also a bit intimidating. Less is more for a lot of people and clearly that works for Apple.
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Unless the OP is the head of a consumer electronics company and has several tens of millions of dollars to spend in R&D, I don't think this is a valid point.
Another Android user/fan signs up to MacRumors for no apparent reason.
I design embedded microcontroller products.
Personally, drag 'n drop was cool back when I had a 512MB MP3 player a decade ago, but now I couldn't live without Smart Playlists.
Smart Playlists will automatically copy music to your iPhone based on rules that use metadata, like the date the music was added to your library, how many stars you rated it, how many times you hit the skip button when listening to it, the genre, etc. So now when I sync my iPhone, it automatically gets new music copied across, based on those rules.
And even if you don't want to use Smart Playlists, in your example above (of just wanting to sync one album), you highlight the songs in iTunes, right click and do "New Playlist from Selection", and then set that playlist to sync. You do not have to go through and uncheck every other song in your iTunes library!
Seems like virtually everyone I've seen at the Genius Bar with an iOS device is there for a hardware issue, and seems like almost all of them walk out of the store with a replacement device in hand.
How does that work with Samsung? Say six months after you buy it, sound stops coming out of the headphone jack. Or you have a defective battery. Where do you go to get that fixed, and how long does it take?
Actually I owned the 4 and 4s, but just recently joined to see what the 5 had to offer and what actual users were saying about the phone. I really didn't mean my last statement to be negative...please don't take it that way. I have a brother that used to be an android user and switched over to the iPhone because he got tired of tinkering with his android and just wanted the phone "to work" as he says. He constantly says he's just tired of technology and options...he just wants to pick it up and tap on an icon to do his thing...that's why I said what I said. No offense
Personally, drag 'n drop was cool back when I had a 512MB MP3 player a decade ago, but now I couldn't live without Smart Playlists.
Smart Playlists will automatically copy music to your iPhone based on rules that use metadata, like the date the music was added to your library, how many stars you rated it, how many times you hit the skip button when listening to it, the genre, etc. So now when I sync my iPhone, it automatically gets new music copied across, based on those rules.
And even if you don't want to use Smart Playlists, in your example above (of just wanting to sync one album), you highlight the songs in iTunes, right click and do "New Playlist from Selection", and then set that playlist to sync. You do not have to go through and uncheck every other song in your iTunes library!
To quote from the Apple loyalist's handbook: That is too much choice and too complex. The average person doesn't use or care for any of those customized lists. The average user would be overwhelmed and confused by all those list parameters. /Apple loyalist.
Samsung has better quality control than Apple compared to say scratched and dented iPhones out of the box or bent iPhones. And batteries? Most Samsung phones have replaceable batteries and Samsung can just mail you a new battery, a new phone, or do it at an affiliated Samsung repair centre/carrier store. What do you think iDevice users do when they don't live near an Apple store? Drive a 1000 km to Cupertino?
Wow. You answered your own question OP.
Android tablets will get better when they finishing copying Apple. Just as they did in the phone market.
You must be a young guy. The 'it's just simpler' logo goes back decades with Apple. For example plug and play devices for computers was started by Apple, making set up of printers etc easy. It was all lead by apple. Just as the current crop of smartphones. That is there distinction.
If android seems simple to you today it's thanks to Apples lead in music players and the App Store concept, etc.
the iPhone 5 takes a pile of crap on the GS3 it's out there read the benchmarks...
android people are so insecure they try really hard registering to apple related forums to try to sell us their phones
android people are so insecure they try really hard registering to apple related forums to try to sell us their phones
I had an android device before getting the iPhone. Touchwiz was a pain in the @$$ and was so slow at doing normal tasks such as making calls and sending/ receiving texts. The only way the phone was usable was putting custom Roms on it. This made the phone much more usable. Now if I was an average user, one who has little to no knowledge of technology, I wouldn't be able to switch between Roms or even think of doing something like that. And even with such Roms you run the risk of something being broken and not working.
With the iPhone, you don't need to install Roms or root the device to do things a mobile device should do. And even if you do want to jailbreak to gain some extra functionality that's stock for android, you're guaranteed that EVERYTHING will work. You can make calls, send and receive texts and have a working GPS and don't have to depend on anyone to fix something that's broken.
So yes, iOS just works. And for the majority of people in this world that's what is needed. Android is fine for those who understand technology and all but for people who don't access forums like these and mod their devices, iOS offers simplicity that allows them to go about their daily lives without something not working.
With the iPhone, you don't need to install Roms or root the device to do things a mobile device should do. And even if you do want to jailbreak to gain some extra functionality that's stock for android, you're guaranteed that EVERYTHING will work. You can make calls, send and receive texts and have a working GPS and don't have to depend on anyone to fix something that's broken.
So yes, iOS just works. And for the majority of people in this world that's what is needed. Android is fine for those who understand technology and all but for people who don't access forums like these and mod their devices, iOS offers simplicity that allows them to go about their daily lives without something not working.
I admit I am a power user as well. I like jailbreaking and installing tweaks. I liked playing around with my SGSII when I had it, used it for over a year between iphone4 and iphone 5.
However, I do think iphone 5 is simpler to use. Everything does just work. Sure android had tons of customisations. But which rom do you decide to use? and if there is a bug in that rom? (I went through probably 30 roms before I found one I liked, and then found out a killing bug). In the end I got tired of relearning every rom's perks, tired of resetting up everything because of no backup, tired of keeping an eye out for individual developer's roms based on XXLESGF or XXLESGX and deciding which one is better, only to find out that after I found the most beautiful rom, did everything I want, I still had to micromanage my battery, and in the end I was still doing exactly the same things I was doing on my iphone 5. Call, text, chat, browse.
That is my opinion, and I voted with my wallet. Apple gets my money for this generation's phone. Next gen? we will see.
However, I do think iphone 5 is simpler to use. Everything does just work. Sure android had tons of customisations. But which rom do you decide to use? and if there is a bug in that rom? (I went through probably 30 roms before I found one I liked, and then found out a killing bug). In the end I got tired of relearning every rom's perks, tired of resetting up everything because of no backup, tired of keeping an eye out for individual developer's roms based on XXLESGF or XXLESGX and deciding which one is better, only to find out that after I found the most beautiful rom, did everything I want, I still had to micromanage my battery, and in the end I was still doing exactly the same things I was doing on my iphone 5. Call, text, chat, browse.
That is my opinion, and I voted with my wallet. Apple gets my money for this generation's phone. Next gen? we will see.
Yet another Android fanboy signing up on a Mac forum just to bash Apple for no reason. Please, log off the forums and go back to your plastic phones.