It's really not *that* complicated is it?

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  1. profmatt, Apr 12, 2015
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    profmatt macrumors 65816

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    Tap the screen, or click the crown, or waggle your arm about yelling "why won't this damn thing turn on": turns the watch on

    Swipe up: see Glances - single screens of information from your apps

    Swipe left and right: move between screens at that level, e.g. move from one Glance to the next

    Swipe down: see Notifications

    Force touch: dig deeper into an app, e.g. to change settings

    Turn the crown: scrolls the screen up or down; switches between menu options

    Click the crown once: [edited] takes you to the home screen, weirdly

    Click the crown twice: takes you to the watch face from an app, or back to the app from the watch face

    Click and hold the crown: launches Siri

    Click pointless button once: see Contacts

    Click pointless button twice: see Apple Pay if you're American, get pissed off if you're from any other country in the world (yes, there are other countries)
     
  2. edlex macrumors 68000

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    Well said. Not brain surgery. Roger that ##
     
  3. kovey macrumors 6502a

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    People couldn't really figure out the iPhone at first. However, these are the "simple" people as I call them.
     
  4. cmichaelb macrumors 68020

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    I don't get that at all- the iPhone was the easiest thing in the world to pickup and use.
     
  5. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

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    Everyone always remebers it like it never was.
     
  6. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    Really? My mom is as simple as can be yet she was able to figure out the iPhone on her own. I get questions from her all the time regarding how to work the computer but never the iPhone.
     
  7. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    My mom (who is 73) is using her iPad now mostly with ease but I had to walk her through features it initially. There are still things I have to remind her about how they work, like search, how to create folders. A few times she's had rotation lock on by mistake and didn't know how to turn it off. For me after using something so long it's hard to remember a time when it wasn't intuitive.
     
  8. Geniva macrumors newbie

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    I'm pretty sure clicking the crown doesn't select the menu option - when playing around with the demo I remember accidentally pressing the crown down to try and select something, and it sent me to the homescreen. Kind of a "doh!" moment for me, as I had to reopen the app and this time remember to touch it with my finger instead of clicking the crown down.

    The crown button is actually a bit disorienting at times to me - sometimes it will send you straight home. Sometimes it will only go back one screen like a back button (the friends list is an example). If you're at the homescreen, it will take you to the watchface.

    I also hit the contacts button by accident when wanting to put the watch to sleep - which isn't necessary, I know, but habits take awhile to fight.
     
  9. dannyyankou macrumors 603

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    It only took me about a minute to get the hang of it at an Apple Store. Completely different experience from when I tried the Moto 360 at best buy.
     
  10. mightyjabba macrumors 65816

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    The original iPhone was intuitive. My then two-year-old figured out the basics on his own! I don't think the watch is intuitive, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. As long as you can figure it out quickly and it doesn't stay confusing it should be fine.
     
  11. rorschach macrumors 68020

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    I did the same thing – multiple times! I kept clicking it instead of the Digital Crown. I guess it just "feels" more like a standard, clickable button.
     
  12. Shanghaichica macrumors 603

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    It's not. It's just difficult to do in a crowded store. I still managed to navigate around. Once I've had it a day or two it will be a walk in the park.
     
  13. largefarrva macrumors 6502a

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    ROFL Thanks for the laugh OP. That was pretty funny....especially the part at the end. :)
     
  14. profmatt thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Actually, it *is* that complicated.

    I've made three changes to the information about what the digital crown does.
     
  15. Ubuntu macrumors 68000

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    Yes but much like trying to teach a Windows user how to use a Mac (or vice versa, iOS/Android etc) it's understandable that many people will approach the watch as if it were just another iOS device. It doesn't help matters that the button below the digital crown looks like a typical iOS device power button.

    I've managed just fine using the watch but I can see how it can be confusing.

    EDIT: Did laugh out loud about the Apple Pay, though.
     
  16. Goldfrapp macrumors 68040

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    Not weirdly. Crown is like a home button on your iPhone:

    click once = home screen
    click and hold = Siri
     
  17. kmj2318 macrumors 68000

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    I don't think it's that complicated. The behaviors are very familiar to iPhone users. The phone has swipe up and down, swipe side to side through pages. Press the round button, press the round button twice, press and hold the round button. I think people see everything it can do and think it's too much. Which I think it would be too much for people wanting to learn all at once. However, normal people will discover things on their own when the time comes. I don't think they'll be overwhelmed. The phone has similarly discoverable things. Like dragging down to show a search field, or dragging to reload. Swiping on messages to show timestamp. I know many people who literally never use notification center or control center and they get by. Same with multitasking. My mom just discovered it after years of using an iPhone, and then promptly forgot about it because she doesn't need it. The depth is there for people that want it, but most people will only use a small number of features. It's not much different from the iPhone.

    Why is this weird?
     
  18. kingofwale macrumors 6502a

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    still don't see the point of having ANOTHER button other than the crown.

    that itself is just confusing enough.

    Also force press doesn't work very well, you have to press and hold it for a couple of seconds before finding out if that even works on that particular screen you are on
     
  19. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    True.

    People totally forget that they had to show parents and kids how to get out of "wiggling icon" mode on their first iPhone or iPad. Or how to pinch zoom. Or swipe to delete. Or later, how to make app folders. Or even that the Home button was how you exited an app.

    Those were not intuitive things all on their own, because they were new actions. Easily learned, yes, but not intuitive to anyone who had never ever heard of or seen them.

    Likewise, people here who are trying out the Apple Watch, go in with certain foreknowledge, such as that the crown is clickable. That's not a traditional action for a crown, and a lot of people would never try it on their own, especially since there's an actual button below it!

    Ditto for Force Touch, which is going to confuse a lot of people who have never heard of it, and who will wonder what the heck is going on with their new toy that someone gave them.
     
  20. BD1 macrumors 6502

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    Force touch seemed very inconsistent on the couple of demo watches I tried. Didn't seem to always work and the length of the hold seemed inconsistent. Hopefully this is just because these are demos and the shipping watches will have been fine tuned for this.

    I also found myself swiping up/down from screens other than the watch face because on my iPhone I am used to swiping down for notifications and up for control panel on every screen.
     
  21. FatMax macrumors 6502

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    One has to remember that the watch face "app" is the main feature of the watch. It's from here you have your glances and the immediate information you need. I'm actually not quite sure if third party apps on the watch would have been necessary at all. Loading an application is a bit tedious and probably takes more time then the 5-10 seconds of use Apple is aiming for.

    I haven't tried it yet, so I might be talking out of my ass. But Gruber did have some interesting thoughts on the watch face.
     
  22. Plx32 macrumors member

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    I agree that the contact button is really hard to understand.

    As a iPhone user, this kind of button is expected to switch on or off the screen (which can be useful to save even more battery).

    That would have been more useful.

    I don't understand they have given such an important button to contacts : I don't think most people will really use their watch to call or text their friends (especialy on a device where there's no keyboard)
     
  23. profmatt thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Because I would expect it to select the current menu item. It scrolls like a mouse, but it doesn't click like a mouse.

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    I wonder if Apple's control freakery will allow us one day to set the button to whatever we want it to do. I'm reassured other people can't really see the point of it. I won't be using it at all if all I can do is look at my contacts. I won't be originating messages or calls from my watch.
     
  24. mightyjabba macrumors 65816

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    I just can't get my head around the "side button." On a watch with only two physical buttons, we don't need one of them dedicated to selecting contacts. Given the confusion a lot of people have about navigation it would seem make more sense to have the side button be analogous to the home button, toggling between the watch face and the apps screen, while the digital crown was used just for scrolling/selecting.
     
  25. Goldfrapp macrumors 68040

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    I bet the next Watch will get rid of the side button.
     

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