iTunes 10.3 Now Available for Download

[edwurtle]

A) you're completely wrong.
B) In addition to music, you can also turn on/off auto download for apps and books
C) just go into the iTunes app on your iOS device and through that you can re-download individual songs to save space if you must.

A) What did I say was wrong?
B) I know this, but I was only specifically talking about music.
C) I understand, but this solution is not very elegant

You did not understand my point. I rotate my library on and off my iPhone: basically 1/4 of the library is removed and replaced every few weeks. I currently do this by adjusting sync settings in itunes on macbook and re-syncing.

How will I be able to do this with JUST the iPhone and iCloud? From the keynote, iCloud was to replace macbook as the "syncing hub"... but there is no solution if you want to drastically adjust your synced songs. I could use your "C) method" and download song by song by song... but you see how painful that would be?

 

[DocNYz]

How will I be able to do this with JUST the iPhone and iCloud? From the keynote, iCloud was to replace macbook as the "syncing hub"... but there is no solution if you want to drastically adjust your synced songs. I could use your "C) method" and download song by song by song... but you see how painful that would be?

I do the same thing as you actually (rotating music every few days), so I'd suggest two things. Keep doing it as you currently do, by connecting to your computer and manually selecting the playlists you want on your phone/iOS device, since I doubt all of your music is only purchased through iTunes (since that's all you redownload at the moment anyway). Second, go to apple.com/feedback and suggest they add support for playlists etc. What they're doing with photos in the cloud is exactly that, doing the most recent photos so they know that concept is a good one, and if enough of us suggest the feedback there's plenty of time between now and the Fall when iOS 5 is out for changes to be made (they clearly listen to us, the new notification system is case in point ).

 

[Reach]

The download is on the UK itunes site. The features only extend as far as Books and Apps for us though sadly. The Music part of all this is US only according to the apple site...

Bummer for sure. Downloaded and was eager to sync some purchases across devices. No such luck...

If this service doesn't become international, I think Apple has really messed up. I've been pretty loyal to iTunes despite not being able to get TV shows and movies etc., but this functionality really has to come here too.. Of course, they could just have iTunes be a US-only service, and I guess I'd finally have to look for good alternatives.

 

[the8thark]

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

Limit 25,000 songs. iTunes purchases do not count against limit.

Is this 25K per year or 25K forever and no more after that?

 

[bman1209]

do you need ios 4.3 for it to work?

does anyone know if you need ios 4.3 to make this new feature work?

 

[AjeeB]

dudez is this version safe for jailbreakers !!
any confirm !?!

BR

 

[sectime]

Bummer for sure. Downloaded and was eager to sync some purchases across devices. No such luck...

If this service doesn't become international, I think Apple has really messed up. I've been pretty loyal to iTunes despite not being able to get TV shows and movies etc., but this functionality really has to come here too.. Of course, they could just have iTunes be a US-only service, and I guess I'd finally have to look for good alternatives.

I'm sure it is nothing to do with different laws in other countries. Enjoy whatever you choose.

 

[Hueyfreeman]

Fix it before you add more things to it!!

Could apple maybe stop pushing updates to itunes and fix on the windows side first. I Mean it is pretty bad on this side of the fence and there is no excuse why it has been running this bad for years. I would really like to see them fix it rather then adding to the problem.

 

[jhwalker]

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

Is this 25K per year or 25K forever and no more after that?

Definitely a question for me. I have 45k tracks now and probably 400-500 CDs yet to rip :/ Probably only a couple thousand of those purchased via iTunes, several thousand more Amazon MP3s and the rest ripped from my CD collection.

 

[zed1291]

Don’t download it!

If you have an Apple TV, don’t download the update. After I updated to iTunes 10.3, my Apple TV no longer finds my iMac & my iMac can’t find my Apple TV.

 

[jhwalker]

Can't download past purchases from two different iTunes IDs :/

I was just catching up some tracks I'd lost / misplaced over the years on my home "server". Was able easily to download about 100 tracks missing from one account, but when I switched to the other account (my partner's), got an "error" message to the effect that "this machine is already associated with another iTunes ID - you must wait 90 days to download past purchases from another ID".

That is going to be a major pain unless they develop a way to pool authorized IDs like they do for home sharing.

 

[hokiepokie07]

How do you download the past purchases?

I downloaded iTunes 10.3, but it seems exactly the same.

 

[McMacuser]

I don't get it. YOU decided to share an iTunes account with other people. What do you think it meant? You do realize that they could have contacted support to get this kind of information anyway correct? And in the App store they could already go and see what was available to be installed for free.

I have never understood why anyone would share an Apple ID with other people when it is free to create an account and since with the iTunes Home Sharing feature introduced a while ago you can easily share purchases amongst each other anyway without having to make multiple purchases.

Could be many reasons. Here are a few of mine:

1) Because my wife is a freelance journalist and we can write off her purchases of music, video etc against our JOINT tax return. So we want all purchases made with our JOINT credit card to be tied to an invoice which comes with HER name on it. Only way to do this is for us to share an Apple ID for purchases.

2) Because we've been buying content from Apple for long, long before Home Sharing was introduced.

3) Because we each had Apple IDs for purchases prior to meeting one another (over 7 years ago!), then got a mobile me family pack to synchronize our respective email, calanders etc to our individual devices (ipad in my case, iphone in hers) but wanted to share subsets of an itunes library (music, video) and of an iphoto library which is kept at home on a mac mini which acts as our enterainment server - so we use a shared Apple ID for purchases on the Mac Mini, and on the iphone and ipad, but have our individual mobile me accounts set up to sync email etc on the devices.

My particular concern is with 3). When Mobile Me is discontinued, it is not clear to me if/how we would be able to continue to sync our individual email, contacts etc to our devices while maintaining a shared library of itunes content.

Personally I have no issues with my wife seeing my purchase history (or me seeing hers) from our shared Apple ID. But I DO have an issue with having to merge the separate syncing we currently get from Mobile Me (and which ties to our individual Mobile Me addresses) with a shared sync of itunes content (which appears to have to tie to one Apple ID).

 

[jhwalker]

How do you download the past purchases?

I downloaded iTunes 10.3, but it seems exactly the same.

Go to the iTunes Store. On the Home page, see the Quick Links section, select "Purchased (NEW)" link (about half-way down, on the right hand side). Click on that, it will be obvious from there.

 

[Reach]

I'm sure it is nothing to do with different laws in other countries. Enjoy whatever you choose.

The wording on the iCloud-page makes it seem reasonable to hope that this US-only thing is only for the beta.

I don't think the tv/movie exclusion is about laws, but about negotiations about rights in different zones etc.? (As in the right-holders being the problem, not laws.)

Forgot about books, also US only when Apple does it, while Amazon seems to be able to sell me books..

 

[satkin2]

Won't show up here in UK???

wonder if its just for the USA at present?

I'm in the UK and have downloaded it, going to check for updates didn't work, however I was able to download 10.3 from the iTunes site online.

It appears that us UK users don't have the purchased music option at the moment, probably due to licencing agreements, but we can see Apps and iBooks.

Nice addition to browse and download iBooks via iTunes now, it's a shame we can't read them on our Macs though.

 

[chorikawa321]

Books was in the iTunes store was in iTunes 10.2.2.

 

[John.B]

Could apple maybe stop pushing updates to itunes and fix on the windows side first. I Mean it is pretty bad on this side of the fence and there is no excuse why it has been running this bad for years. I would really like to see them fix it rather then adding to the problem.

Maybe the whole iCloud sync thing could allow them to cut the feature bloat from iTunes and have it go back to be, oh, I don't know, maybe a music player? Just sayin'...

 

[chorikawa321]

Could be many reasons. Here are a few of mine:

1) Because my wife is a freelance journalist and we can write off her purchases of music, video etc against our JOINT tax return. So we want all purchases made with our JOINT credit card to be tied to an invoice which comes with HER name on it. Only way to do this is for us to share an Apple ID for purchases.

2) Because we've been buying content from Apple for long, long before Home Sharing was introduced.

3) Because we each had Apple IDs for purchases prior to meeting one another (over 7 years ago!), then got a mobile me family pack to synchronize our respective email, calanders etc to our individual devices (ipad in my case, iphone in hers) but wanted to share subsets of an itunes library (music, video) and of an iphoto library which is kept at home on a mac mini which acts as our enterainment server - so we use a shared Apple ID for purchases on the Mac Mini, and on the iphone and ipad, but have our individual mobile me accounts set up to sync email etc on the devices.

My particular concern is with 3). When Mobile Me is discontinued, it is not clear to me if/how we would be able to continue to sync our individual email, contacts etc to our devices while maintaining a shared library of itunes content.

Personally I have no issues with my wife seeing my purchase history (or me seeing hers) from our shared Apple ID. But I DO have an issue with having to merge the separate syncing we currently get from Mobile Me (and which ties to our individual Mobile Me addresses) with a shared sync of itunes content (which appears to have to tie to one Apple ID).

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4597

 

[McMacuser]

Thanks for the link, chorikawa321. I had read that information previously, and I am pleased that the syncing of email, cals etc which we currently use Mobile Me to perform will be supported under iCloud.

However (and don't get me wrong, I am a big Apple supporter and have enjoyed using their products and services for many years) there are some really important questions which I hope we'll find out the answers to in the coming months:

1) For users with Family Packs on Mobile Me, will sign up to iCloud involve creation of separate accounts, or can accounts somehow be linked in the way they can with MM family pack?

2) If accounts must be separate in order to support individual syncing of email, cal etc, is there a way to nevertheless share itunes content on a single Apple ID? In other words, can I continue to have my and my wife's devices set up as they currently are - with each having an individual Mobile Me ID which will sync email etc, but ALSO with each using a common Apple ID for itunes content? There's nothing in the support doc you posted which gives me any comfort that this will be the case.

Having scanned these threads I can see I am far from being the only long-time Apple user with similar concerns about shared Apple ID's, and multiple/family pack mobile me accounts. I have to hope that means Apple will have some sort of plan to help us make the transition, but at present there appears to be very little information.

 

[satkin2]

As a book publisher, I'm THRILLED that our iBookstore titles can now also be browsed in iTunes. Thank you, Apple!

As a publisher, how would you feel about your iBooks being readable on Macs along with iOS devices?

All of the iCloud features are designed to sync with all Apple devices, be it iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad or Mac. The only feature I saw that didn't do this was the iBooks section which did seem a little odd given that Steve referred to even the Macs being treated as just another device now.

 

[MartiNZ]

Cool to hear 64-bit iTunes -is- coming, one less thing for people to field complaints about around here! I wonder if they will do the same for other iLife apps through updates post-Lion; else it may be a while with the current '11 moniker. iWork I can definitely see being updated, although Pages was shown working with a lot of the new Lion features at the keynote anyway.

Having apps history in iTunes is really nice - used to always worry when downloading an app again from ages ago, would it remember.... If they could sort out consistency with the 'Buy' vs 'Get' button in the password confirmation dialog that would be nice. Music, well, maybe it will happen here one day; it certainly has more reason to than books - will the iBookStore -ever- go beyond the free classics?

 

[Zimmy68]

64 bit iTunes has been coming for 5 years.
I'll believe it when I see it.
They will throw millions at certain problems but won't touch(recode) the bloated mess that is a long in the tooth iTunes program.

BTW, I noticed something interesting in the purchase history in iTunes that I hope is fixed.

If you acquired any songs free via a promotion or special, they don't count as purchased on multiple devices.

I see the "Just Like Starting Over (2010)" on the iTunes I downloaded it from, when Apple offered it for free, but it doesn't show up in my iPad as a prior purchase.

I own the song, shouldn't I be able to download it again if I lose it?

 

[ten-oak-druid]

Apple got a little sloppy.

They didn't ask me for my password to install the update.

BTW, I noticed something interesting in the purchase history in iTunes that I hope is fixed.

If you acquired any songs free via a promotion or special, they don't count as purchased on multiple devices.

I see the "Just Like Starting Over (2010)" on the iTunes I downloaded it from, when Apple offered it for free, but it doesn't show up in my iPad as a prior purchase.

I own the song, shouldn't I be able to download it again if I lose it?

^^
You also don't get to "complete the album" for less money with free promotional songs either. That should be changed.

 

[cburton]

I downloaded and installed 10.3. When I go to "Purchased" in the store it shows me stuff that I imported from CD as being available for download when I select "Not In My Library". But they are in fact in my library ... what gives?