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iTunes 12.4 Has Apple Music Playback Bug Related to Tracks Shorter Than 60 Seconds

My rMBP ruuning El Captain has crashed a number of times since the latest update. I now have stopped using itune music for my music as I found maybe i should just stick with LPs and Spotify.

My overall experience with Apple products is getting worse and worse. I remember I heard Steve jobs would use the product himself be let it released. I don't think TC cares about that much at all (actually I don;t know what his passion is, i don;t think it is Apple or what apple once stood for). Or he has a much higher tolerance. Yes, compare to MS Apple is way much better, but compare to what Apple used to be, it is not there anymore today.
 
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Ok, I swear I don´t this on porpouse, but it´s seem I have found another bug?.

On the album section of an artist (not all artists, but some ), not every albums shows up, and instead that spinning circle shows forever. Again, IOS and TVOS are perfectly fine (and ATV3 via Airplay). Sorry about the off-topic, but I just stumbled upon it searching a particular recording.
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B/D said:
And conceptual albums too!!!

Is far more annoying for me i guess because I don´t use playlists, just listen to complete albums from start to end (old school, I know), and when an interruption comes, is destroys mood and listening experience completely .
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Coldplay's Mylo Xyloto suffers from this bug. The first track is 0:42 long and the 12th track is 0:33 long. I ran into this last week for the first time and was totally stumped as to why this was happening.
 
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At this point, iTunes is the bug!

I have been using iTunes for 10 years now. I have watched it slowly crap out. From broken art work, to corrupting mp4s, to breaking links, to duplicating matches, garbage design changes, this thing is horrible. iTunes has so much potential yet Apple ***** away just like the iOS music app. You'd think one of Apple's top revenue streams would get better attention.
 
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Squareball said:
Coldplay's Mylo Xyloto suffers from this bug. The first track is 0:42 long and the 12th track is 0:33 long. I ran into this last week for the first time and was totally stumped as to why this was happening.
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Every album with songs under a minute suffers from this bug, since 12.4 was released. We´ve been living with this major issue more than a month now.

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Every album with songs under a minute suffers from this bug, since 12.4 was released. We´ve been living with this major issue more than a month now.

:)
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And life still goes on. How can that be?
 
djk29a said:
Apple Music streaming is not iTunes and has only been in production for a few years. On the other hand, I'm surprised that this bug has only recently been discovered if it's existed since the beginning of public release.





This particular bug is only happening in iTunes 12.4./12.4.1 which means that has been present only since May 16th. iTunes 12.5 on macOs Sierra beta and iTunes 12.3 streaming perfectly well.
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That is some very poor programming right there. It's not the kind of abstract bug that was hard to think about in the first place, this one is an obvious consideration while planning the whole thing out. Very embarrassing.
 
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citysnaps said:
And life still goes on. How can that be?
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Yes, exactly, life goes on. And like everything else in life, problems only get solved if we do something about it, which is what I´m doing right now. Granted , machine and technology issues are of little importance in grand scheme of things; but like I said, I have the same attitude in every aspect of my life. In this case would be: Instead of whining about Apple do something about it!. Well, I´m doing exactly that.

I have a Mac, Iphone, Ipad, Apple TV and Airport Extreme because I love the company high standards towards to achieve excellence in user experience, easy of use and design. If I consider that at some point software bugs don't allow to reach any of those standards , as a consumer I have the obligation to do something about it, and that´s not whining in forums, but politely and calmly report the bug to Apple (both trough phone and feedback website), and then share my case with the community, to see if anyone else is affected.

At least that the way I see it.

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citysnaps said:
And life still goes on. How can that be?
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Final clarification. I just remarked that because it´s a paid service. Let´s not forget about that.

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iTunes is like media player bundled with windows. Horrible music players imo and they only play a small amount of formats.

That's why I use Cog and develop it further myself.
 
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And life still goes on.
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...but Pink Floyd's "The Wall" would finish 2 tracks before the end (on a track called "Stop"). The first track of "Dark Side of the Moon" squeaks through by 15 seconds (otherwise Apple's failure to catch this bug would be inconceivable!)

B/D said:
just listen to complete albums from start to end (old school, I know), and when an interruption comes, is destroys mood and listening experience completely .
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I want a music player with an album shuffle feature for when I want to cut loose, loosen up, take a risk and listen to albums out of chronological order - without having all the individual tracks shuffled.

NB: Someone better try playing Amarok by Mike Oldfield to see how it deals with tracks over 61 minutes long.

Borin said:
I have this problem on iOS (9.3.3 beta 3) whilst listening to Monty Python's various albums, but it skips tracks too.
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Hang on - ISTR some of the Python records (in their vinyl incarnations) had wacky features like ending on a loop or having two different grooves... maybe the quirks got digitised? :)

Clearly Apple are letting some post-Simon Cowell-era sprog who thinks Eminem is "Dad music" pick their test tracks!
 
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Update: This bug also occurs with your own albums on iTunes Match, when you try to streaming them. So is a general streaming bug of iTunes 12.4.-12.4.1, not an specific bug of Apple Music streaming.

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It's funny because I actually ran into this problem yesterday and figured it was just glitching out. Could never get that next song after the shorter one to play. Didn't try restarting the app because I didn't care enough. Just clicked around and gave up.

I don't know objective-c or swift very well but basically written in plain text pseudo-code:

if playlist[counter + 1].[duration] < 60
queue_next_song()
queue_timeout = 0​
else
queue_timeout = 60​
end if

So this would grab the next song in the array, grab the nested array containing metadata about the song, and check the length against 60 seconds if it's formatted in seconds. Then call the song queue_next_song() function after a timeout in the code (not shown in my example), or not at all if the timeout is set to 0 because the function has already been called. Easy.
 
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konqerror said:
These types of bugs suggest that Apple sucks at test automation/unit tests. They just give it to somebody and they play a their favorite songs. What they should do is make iTunes play a huge number of randomly selected tracks from the service.

Google understands and invests a bit in this stuff. It's not about how much software you can write anymore, it's about how much software you can test.
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YouTube App navigation buttons don't show up at all!

Did Google test that too?
 
konqerror said:
These types of bugs suggest that Apple sucks at test automation/unit tests. They just give it to somebody and they play a their favorite songs. What they should do is make iTunes play a huge number of randomly selected tracks from the service.

Google understands and invests a bit in this stuff. It's not about how much software you can write anymore, it's about how much software you can test.
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I very much doubt so.
There is no evidence in support of this, which would be a rather extraordinary claim for a major software product in 2016, let alone iTunes.

No matter how many automated tests you have in place, you would have to have the correct test to catch such a bug, and if nobody thought of it...

After all, unit testing, Dijkstra loved to stress, can only be used to show the presence of a bug, never its absence.

What would have probably helped here is monkey testing (named after MacPaint, no less).
 
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zhenya said:
Yes it also happens in Windows. (Windows 10, ITunes 12.4.1.6)
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Thank you very much.

So I guess we can now confirm that it´s a streaming issue that only happens on iTunes 12.4-12.4.1. Is not an OS or even Apple Music related bug, because like I said earlier , this also happens with iTunes Match, and now we know that it´s happening on Windows too .

Every other version of iTunes don't have this bug.
 
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